removing ivy on redwood trees

DGRWINFELTON · 8th April 2007, 06:51 PM

My new property has several redwood trees with well established ivy growing up from the base to way up there. The new stuff i can pull off easy. Some roots of the ivy are 1/2" to 1" in diameter. Please help.

Ekka · 9th April 2007, 12:41 AM

Here's a thread that was run on vines.

Vines up trees? Yes or no poll?

Do you know which specific ivy it is, maybe if you could show some pics.

How thick is it on the tree? How far up? Are there any broken branches?

Personally, I'm of the opinion it should be removed, I see no benefit to trees having vines in them.

TREE-SURFER · 9th April 2007, 02:26 AM

I can't bare to see good looking trees with Ivy on them. And the owners are not generally bothered about it. However, DGRWINFELTON has recognised that there could be a future problem and also aesthetic related problems. My opinion is to have it removed, Sir, although if you are not able to manage this yourself, you would have to hire a professional climber to do this for you. This could cost you a fair bit, but it really is worth it. I once spent 6 hours removing ivy from a small Yew that had been nearly strangled by the stuff.
I have heard of people cutting the base of the ivy and steeping it with Sodium Chlorate, a very strong weed killer available for the public and killing it of, only to go dry and let the birds pick it off for their nests.

Ekka · 9th April 2007, 02:33 AM

If you cut it at ground will the whole vine die?

Some vines will live in sections, each piece has it's own life and doesn't need contact to ground?? But we dont have much ivy here, we got other whacko itchy stuff.

Sean Freeman · 9th April 2007, 03:04 AM

Yeah that stuff is terrible brings me out in hives

and they keep changing the name of it Epipremnum aureum was the last one I knew it by Devils ivy is an apt common name.

Ekka · 9th April 2007, 04:27 AM

Sean

We get these mongrels too, also itchy as hell.

http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/poison/plants/ppphilo.htm

And the ones you said, itchy also, except for a period a lot longer than a few moments. I get welts and crazy itching for a few days.

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Epiprau.htm

And then these ficus creepers, make me itch like crazy too!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...GL:en%26sa%3DG

DGRWINFELTON · 10th April 2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Here's a thread that was run on vines.

Vines up trees? Yes or no poll?

Do you know which specific ivy it is, maybe if you could show some pics.

How thick is it on the tree? How far up? Are there any broken branches?

Personally, I'm of the opinion it should be removed, I see no benefit to trees having vines in them.

I will post a few photos of my situation in a few days.
I will have to take a specimen down to a nursery to find out what kind of ivy it is. It is growing all over the place on the ground and on a few trees.
I just purchased the property and cannot stay until the power is on. I have put in a new panel. Thanks for your response to the question. I have a feeling i will need to have a pro climb and remove from one of the trees.
Property is in Felton Ca.
Thanks ,
Dave

DGRWINFELTON · 10th April 2007, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TREE-SURFER

I can't bare to see good looking trees with Ivy on them. And the owners are not generally bothered about it. However, DGRWINFELTON has recognised that there could be a future problem and also aesthetic related problems. My opinion is to have it removed, Sir, although if you are not able to manage this yourself, you would have to hire a professional climber to do this for you. This could cost you a fair bit, but it really is worth it. I once spent 6 hours removing ivy from a small Yew that had been nearly strangled by the stuff.
I have heard of people cutting the base of the ivy and steeping it with Sodium Chlorate, a very strong weed killer available for the public and killing it of, only to go dry and let the birds pick it off for their nests.

Thanks for the advice. I will remove as much as I can and have the rest removed by a pro.
Photos will be posted in a few days. Property is in Santa Cruz mountains in Felton CA. Gotta take care of these redwoods. Just purchased the property a few weeks ago. Not even moved in yet.

Dave

Ekka · 11th April 2007, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGRWINFELTON

Property is in Santa Cruz mountains in Felton CA. Gotta take care of these redwoods. Just purchased the property a few weeks ago. Not even moved in yet.

Dave

That's the spirit. Why move to the mountains to cut trees down or watch them get suffocated by ivy.

Looking forward to the pictures.

TreeCo · 11th April 2007, 09:31 AM

There is probably no need to remove the ivy from the upper portions of the tree. I use a hand saw and cut about one foot above ground and again about four feet above ground being careful to not cut the tree bark. Remove all of the cut ivy and the rest of the ivy in the tree will die and over the next few years will fall from the tree. Dead ivy in the tree is no problem. The ivy will grow again from it's roots and will need spraying with Roundup at least 3 times when it has leaves during the growing season. Some of the ivy I removed was 3 inches in diameter.

The photos are of a white oak on our property that had english ivy clear to it's top. This tree is about 3ft. in diameter breast high. About 4 years ago I cut the ivy off in a band like I've suggested above. I found chainsaw cuts in the bark from previous attempts at killing this ivy. Using a hand saw and a couple of hours I was able to remove this ivy without cutting the bark.

TREE-SURFER · 11th April 2007, 10:59 AM

It's a pity that Dave is in Felton Ca. I would love to climb a huge redwood. of the Sequoiadendron giganteum sort. Now that would be great.
I'd probably have to bring up a whole load of food and a tree tent to do it mind.
Wishful thinking.

mdvaden · 11th April 2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGRWINFELTON

My new property has several redwood trees with well established ivy growing up from the base to way up there. The new stuff i can pull off easy. Some roots of the ivy are 1/2" to 1" in diameter. Please help.

The vines had leaves in the winter - right?

Just thought I'd ask, because if you are in California, and there were no leaves on the vines in winter, its probably poison oak vine. Small chance of a Clematis, but not likely. Poison oak vines can reach well over 100 feet. I saw one in the redwoods not long ago, that's probably approaching 200 feet.

English Ivy is one broadleaf evergreen ivy that has invaded many woodlands and yards in the USA.

The English ivy photo that TreeCo posted is missing leaves because the vines are dead, otherwise it holds leaves all year.

Sean Freeman · 11th April 2007, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeCo

There is probably no need to remove the ivy from the upper portions of the tree. I use a hand saw and cut about one foot above ground and again about four feet above ground being careful to not cut the tree bark. Remove all of the cut ivy and the rest of the ivy in the tree will die and over the next few years will fall from the tree. Dead ivy in the tree is no problem. The ivy will grow again from it's roots and will need spraying with Roundup at least 3 times when it has leaves during the growing season. Some of the ivy I removed was 3 inches in diameter.

Good call treeco, used exactly the same method with many garden escapees smothering rainforest trees up North.

Scottyfl · 17th April 2007, 03:08 PM

I tell customers not to pull from the top so there will be no broken limbs. Cut just like Tree Co said and let mother nature bring the rest down.
Scotty

Fairfield · 17th April 2007, 07:22 PM

i would have to agree with the last. They look well dead prob easy to pull off in sections but you would have to climb it. no worries it will die off and fall down in time

8th April 2007, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
DGRWINFELTON I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3	removing ivy on redwood trees My new property has several redwood trees with well established ivy growing up from the base to way up there. The new stuff i can pull off easy. Some roots of the ivy are 1/2" to 1" in diameter. Please help.

9th April 2007, 12:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Here's a thread that was run on vines. Vines up trees? Yes or no poll? Do you know which specific ivy it is, maybe if you could show some pics. How thick is it on the tree? How far up? Are there any broken branches? Personally, I'm of the opinion it should be removed, I see no benefit to trees having vines in them. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

9th April 2007, 02:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 409	I can't bare to see good looking trees with Ivy on them. And the owners are not generally bothered about it. However, DGRWINFELTON has recognised that there could be a future problem and also aesthetic related problems. My opinion is to have it removed, Sir, although if you are not able to manage this yourself, you would have to hire a professional climber to do this for you. This could cost you a fair bit, but it really is worth it. I once spent 6 hours removing ivy from a small Yew that had been nearly strangled by the stuff. I have heard of people cutting the base of the ivy and steeping it with Sodium Chlorate, a very strong weed killer available for the public and killing it of, only to go dry and let the birds pick it off for their nests. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work Andy@Aerial-Arborist.co.uk What experts say about TOPPING

9th April 2007, 02:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	If you cut it at ground will the whole vine die? Some vines will live in sections, each piece has it's own life and doesn't need contact to ground?? But we dont have much ivy here, we got other whacko itchy stuff. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

9th April 2007, 03:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,669	Yeah that stuff is terrible brings me out in hives and they keep changing the name of it Epipremnum aureum was the last one I knew it by Devils ivy is an apt common name. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

9th April 2007, 04:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Sean We get these mongrels too, also itchy as hell. http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/poison/plants/ppphilo.htm And the ones you said, itchy also, except for a period a lot longer than a few moments. I get welts and crazy itching for a few days. http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/c...on/Epiprau.htm And then these ficus creepers, make me itch like crazy too! http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...GL:en%26sa%3DG __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

11th April 2007, 10:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 409	It's a pity that Dave is in Felton Ca. I would love to climb a huge redwood. of the Sequoiadendron giganteum sort. Now that would be great. I'd probably have to bring up a whole load of food and a tree tent to do it mind. Wishful thinking. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work Andy@Aerial-Arborist.co.uk What experts say about TOPPING

17th April 2007, 03:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
Scottyfl Sappling Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Deltona Fl. Posts: 25	I tell customers not to pull from the top so there will be no broken limbs. Cut just like Tree Co said and let mother nature bring the rest down. Scotty

17th April 2007, 07:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 72	i would have to agree with the last. They look well dead prob easy to pull off in sections but you would have to climb it. no worries it will die off and fall down in time __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you

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