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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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Hey guys, I am new to this forum and I don't really know much about trees but I have this question that I could find the answer to. So last summer, I transplanted this maple sapling to another part of my yard. This year, about a week ago, the buds started to grow leaves. Then, yesterday, I went outside to check on it and an animal had eaten all of the leaves/buds off of it. I have a few questions. Because there are no longer leaves, can the tree still grow buds next year? Can the tree still grow leaves this year? Do buds form in the summer and la dormant over the winter or do they grow in the spring? Thanks, Mike |
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Was the top eaten by a deer? or rabbits? or ???? If it is rabbits -- the sapling must be small -- put a plastic tube over the trunk (slit one side) and provide protection from mice and rabbits chewing on the bark. Coarse hardware cloth (screening with 1/4 or 1/2" mesh) around the sapling 1/2 - 2 ft diameter to a height of 8 to 10 feet will probably provide protection from deer. If your animal is a porcupine you will probably need to electrify the fence, Pics would help. The kind of maple may make a difference to its survival.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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Hi, I have probably 50 or so maple saplings around my yard so I just planted a new one in the spot. I put up a chicken wire fence around it (about 1.5ft tall). the next day I come out and this sapling has been eaten too. I think a deer has been eating it. I'm not really sure why the deer would eat the sapling that I planted when there are tons more around my yard that it doesn't eat! So now I have cut out a piece of chicken wire and have put it on the top so that there is no way it can be eaten now...I will just have to make the wire taller when the tree gets taller. Thanks |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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Hi, I am having another problem now. The leaves are a bit wilty and have a few brown spots on them (about half an inch spots). It has been raining every day this week so I don't think that this is the problem. I put fertilizer down when I planted them for the first time. Could this be hurting them? I would say that about 80-90% of the leaf is normal but 10-20% has brown spots on it. Thanks |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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Hi, I am having another problem now. The leaves are a bit droopy and have a few brown spots on them (about half an inch spots). It has been raining every day this week so I don't think that this is the problem. I put fertilizer down when I planted them for the first time. Could this be hurting them? The fertilizer has nitrogen, phosphoric acid, and soluble potash. I would say that about 80-90% of the leaf is normal but 10-20% has brown spots on it. The maple is in worse shape. The oak is okay. Also, I have been watering them with tap water from inside my house, about half a gallon a day (on days that it doesn't rain). Is that too much? Should I use water from the hose outside (its the same water I think though, not sure). Here are the pictures, http://i237.???????????.com/albums/f...7/DSC05398.jpg http://i237.???????????.com/albums/f...7/DSC05396.jpg ![]() ![]() Thanks again. |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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Oops, I'm sorry. Here they are! |
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The first pic looks more like oak leaves; the second looks like tar spot starting on the leaves (usually appears in August). If it is tar spot, and the maple is a native maple the problem should be minimal. So if the sapling is sugar maple, it is resistant; if the other maples in the yard are norway maple, then the leaves can be covered with tar spot. THe best solution then is to remove the leaves with the most spots, and clean up all fallen leaves (in about 100 foot radius) and you may be able to check the problem. Your deer problem might also be related to native vs introduced maples. Sugar Maple (Acer saccharum) is a native maple - highly edible to deer; Norway Maple (Acer platanoides) is probably poisonous (or at least tastes awful) to deer. The leaves of the two species are very similar,. Norway Maple has slightly extended points, and the sap -- when the leaf is picked -- is milky white, vs Sugar Maple that has clear sap.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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No, I don't think they are tar spots. The spots on the leaves look like dead leaf. The spot is brown too, not black. Also, I do not think it is a sugar maple. But, it may be a Norwegian maple like you think. Do you know of any other type of maples that are common in North America? |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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Oops I mean Norway Maple
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Sugar Maple, red Maple, Silver maple (introduced 200 years ago, considered naturalized), Black Maple, Manitoba Maple, Amur Maple - and for the Norway Maples, over 600 varieties reported (i only know 4 or 5) -- there may be more, these are just the ones I can think of off hand, If the spot on the leaf is dead (brown) then what would have caused a dead spot in the middle of the leaf?, Tar Spot starts out brownish (I think) and then turns black
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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The maple was living entirely in shade before I transplanted it. After the transplant, it is now entirely in sun for the day. Could the sudden change in direct sunlight cause dead spots?
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Yes - the change in amount of sunlight, heat, and shade leaves can photosynthesize quite well - but do poorly in the sun because chemically and cellularly they are not setup for survival in the sun.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio
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So will the maple totally die or can it adapt to the change after a while?
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The shade leaves will probably die and fall off, and new sun leaves will be produced - if the tree lives long enough,
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