Tree World  


Go Back   Tree World > All About Trees > Ask an Arborist here

A question about buds

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 5th May 2011, 12:17 PM   #1
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default A question about buds

Hey guys,

I am new to this forum and I don't really know much about trees but I have this question that I could find the answer to.

So last summer, I transplanted this maple sapling to another part of my yard. This year, about a week ago, the buds started to grow leaves. Then, yesterday, I went outside to check on it and an animal had eaten all of the leaves/buds off of it.

I have a few questions.

Because there are no longer leaves, can the tree still grow buds next year?

Can the tree still grow leaves this year?

Do buds form in the summer and la dormant over the winter or do they grow in the spring?

Thanks,

Mike
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 03:50 PM   #2
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,557
Default Re: A question about buds

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeSwim07 View Post
Hey guys,

I am new to this forum and I don't really know much about trees but I have this question that I could find the answer to.

So last summer, I transplanted this maple sapling to another part of my yard. This year, about a week ago, the buds started to grow leaves. Then, yesterday, I went outside to check on it and an animal had eaten all of the leaves/buds off of it.

I have a few questions.

Because there are no longer leaves, can the tree still grow buds next year?

Can the tree still grow leaves this year?

Do buds form in the summer and la dormant over the winter or do they grow in the spring?

Thanks,

Mike
If the tree is healthy enough, new buds will grow, and new leaves from that. And if the tree gets enough water and nutrients, it should form new buds that will sprout the following spring.
Was the top eaten by a deer? or rabbits? or ???? If it is rabbits -- the sapling must be small -- put a plastic tube over the trunk (slit one side) and provide protection from mice and rabbits chewing on the bark. Coarse hardware cloth (screening with 1/4 or 1/2" mesh) around the sapling 1/2 - 2 ft diameter to a height of 8 to 10 feet will probably provide protection from deer. If your animal is a porcupine you will probably need to electrify the fence,

Pics would help. The kind of maple may make a difference to its survival.
__________________
My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports
Consulting Forester
If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too !
We do great jobs, even in small yards.

Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered)
Cell 416-460-5704
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2011, 12:41 AM   #3
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

Hi,

I have probably 50 or so maple saplings around my yard so I just planted a new one in the spot. I put up a chicken wire fence around it (about 1.5ft tall). the next day I come out and this sapling has been eaten too. I think a deer has been eating it. I'm not really sure why the deer would eat the sapling that I planted when there are tons more around my yard that it doesn't eat!

So now I have cut out a piece of chicken wire and have put it on the top so that there is no way it can be eaten now...I will just have to make the wire taller when the tree gets taller.

Thanks
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st May 2011, 01:55 AM   #4
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

Hi,

I am having another problem now. The leaves are a bit wilty and have a few brown spots on them (about half an inch spots). It has been raining every day this week so I don't think that this is the problem.

I put fertilizer down when I planted them for the first time. Could this be hurting them?

I would say that about 80-90% of the leaf is normal but 10-20% has brown spots on it.

Thanks
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st May 2011, 04:01 AM   #5
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

Hi,

I am having another problem now. The leaves are a bit droopy and have a few brown spots on them (about half an inch spots). It has been raining every day this week so I don't think that this is the problem.

I put fertilizer down when I planted them for the first time. Could this be hurting them? The fertilizer has nitrogen, phosphoric acid, and soluble potash.

I would say that about 80-90% of the leaf is normal but 10-20% has brown spots on it.

The maple is in worse shape. The oak is okay.

Also, I have been watering them with tap water from inside my house, about half a gallon a day (on days that it doesn't rain). Is that too much? Should I use water from the hose outside (its the same water I think though, not sure).

Here are the pictures,

http://i237.???????????.com/albums/f...7/DSC05398.jpg
http://i237.???????????.com/albums/f...7/DSC05396.jpg





Thanks again.
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st May 2011, 08:51 AM   #6
Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane
 
Eric Frei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 12,993
Default Re: A question about buds

Tree World Rules

Quote:
Rule 3.1:- Image, document hosting etc is to be on TreeWorld for the sake of preservation. The disappearance of images etc could ruin threads and posts over time plus it's easy to upload them. Be aware of image sizes, generally anything over 1000px wide and 250kb in size will pose a problem for many users on slow connections or small screen resolutions. If images linked from other sources appear on the forums Tree World has the rights to copy and load the image to it's own server, this includes links to albums.
How to post| add a picture or file| embed picture
Eric Frei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st May 2011, 09:42 AM   #7
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

Oops, I'm sorry.

Here they are!
Attached Thumbnails
A question about buds-picresized_picresized_1305931215_dsc05396.jpg   A question about buds-picresized_picresized_1305931273_dsc05398.jpg  
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd May 2011, 02:47 PM   #8
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,557
Default Re: A question about buds

The first pic looks more like oak leaves; the second looks like tar spot starting on the leaves (usually appears in August). If it is tar spot, and the maple is a native maple the problem should be minimal. So if the sapling is sugar maple, it is resistant; if the other maples in the yard are norway maple, then the leaves can be covered with tar spot. THe best solution then is to remove the leaves with the most spots, and clean up all fallen leaves (in about 100 foot radius) and you may be able to check the problem.
Your deer problem might also be related to native vs introduced maples. Sugar Maple (Acer saccharum) is a native maple - highly edible to deer; Norway Maple (Acer platanoides) is probably poisonous (or at least tastes awful) to deer. The leaves of the two species are very similar,. Norway Maple has slightly extended points, and the sap -- when the leaf is picked -- is milky white, vs Sugar Maple that has clear sap.
__________________
My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports
Consulting Forester
If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too !
We do great jobs, even in small yards.

Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered)
Cell 416-460-5704
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th May 2011, 10:51 AM   #9
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

No, I don't think they are tar spots. The spots on the leaves look like dead leaf. The spot is brown too, not black.

Also, I do not think it is a sugar maple. But, it may be a Norwegian maple like you think.

Do you know of any other type of maples that are common in North America?
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th May 2011, 10:52 AM   #10
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

Oops I mean Norway Maple
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th May 2011, 02:59 PM   #11
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,557
Default Re: A question about buds

Sugar Maple, red Maple, Silver maple (introduced 200 years ago, considered naturalized), Black Maple, Manitoba Maple, Amur Maple - and for the Norway Maples, over 600 varieties reported (i only know 4 or 5) -- there may be more, these are just the ones I can think of off hand,

If the spot on the leaf is dead (brown) then what would have caused a dead spot in the middle of the leaf?, Tar Spot starts out brownish (I think) and then turns black
__________________
My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports
Consulting Forester
If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too !
We do great jobs, even in small yards.

Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered)
Cell 416-460-5704

Last edited by Brent Ferris; 25th May 2011 at 02:59 PM. Reason: typo
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th May 2011, 06:27 AM   #12
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

The maple was living entirely in shade before I transplanted it. After the transplant, it is now entirely in sun for the day. Could the sudden change in direct sunlight cause dead spots?
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th May 2011, 02:51 PM   #13
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,557
Default Re: A question about buds

Yes - the change in amount of sunlight, heat, and shade leaves can photosynthesize quite well - but do poorly in the sun because chemically and cellularly they are not setup for survival in the sun.
__________________
My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports
Consulting Forester
If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too !
We do great jobs, even in small yards.

Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered)
Cell 416-460-5704
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th May 2011, 06:47 AM   #14
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 57
Default Re: A question about buds

So will the maple totally die or can it adapt to the change after a while?
MikeSwim07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st June 2011, 03:49 PM   #15
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,557
Default Re: A question about buds

The shade leaves will probably die and fall off, and new sun leaves will be produced - if the tree lives long enough,
__________________
My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports
Consulting Forester
If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too !
We do great jobs, even in small yards.

Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered)
Cell 416-460-5704
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thanks and a question Purdyite Chainsaws 3 23rd January 2012 12:19 AM
Does removing terminal buds make for a weak tree MrDiesel Ask an Arborist here 0 2nd April 2011 06:14 PM
I've got a question Brian Anthony Tree machinery and equipment 3 1st January 2011 08:56 AM
Question about gas oil mix RN1204 Chainsaws 9 5th July 2010 05:55 AM
buds vs. leaves? evansmm2 Ask an Arborist here 1 2nd May 2009 10:16 PM


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 06:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Advertising on Treeworld
TreeWorld @ 2012