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Old 19th December 2008, 08:05 PM   #1
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Hi all.... first time poster here. Im in need of some advice.

I have the biggest, most beautiful Poinciana in my back yard. My wife and I adore this tree as it provides a huge amount of shade for our back deck. However, I may have made a very serious mistake. You see, one of the large lower limbs was in direct competition with a car port that was to be erected so I got my good old father in law to cut it off. I then thought, hey yeah I should really seal the exposed end so I gave it a good couple of coats of paint. This was about three years ago and I never really gave it another thought until I recently noticed a large scary ugly looking wood borer hacking into the remaining portion of the limb. So a little more investigation and I found out, yep, these "2 inch plus" suckers have decided to turn the stump into their very own public housing commission. They really have caused quite a bit of damage. I think I have got them all out now but have lost much of the existing limb

By the way, if you want some cool barbaric action, put three of these huge nasty borers into a tin together and watch them smash each other. Two of them teamed up and ripped all the legs off the slightly smaller one. It was wild! We then named the legless one - stumpy.

So anyway, then my Dad tells me he was listening to a gardening program on the radio and an expert there reckons if you cut a large limb off a Poinciana or Jacaranda that in their experience the tree will certainly die within five years. Please tell me this aint true! Something about some super deadly fungi or the like? Its been 3 years and the tree looks healthier than ever. Is there anything I can do now to help with the chance of survival or is it doomed?

I really would appreciate some expert knowledge on this topic. I need to know if its necessary to set up a permanent bed in the back of my 1961 Ek Holden wagon due to the fact that if this tree dies, my wife will be so angry at me that it would be the only safe option for a sleeping quarters to ensure my survival. And yes, if I didnt purchase this classic car then I wouldnt have had the need for a car port and then the whole situation would never have surfaced.

Thanking you in advance
Shane

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Old 19th December 2008, 11:33 PM   #2
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So anyway, then my Dad tells me he was listening to a gardening program on the radio and an expert there reckons if you cut a large limb off a Poinciana or Jacaranda that in their experience the tree will certainly die within five years. Please tell me this aint true!
Dont worry, wankers like that inhabit this forum as well as radio stations! I own this place and keep a lid on the volumes of BULLSHIT circulating the place.

Those limbs need to be removed properly, if you were personally getting an amputation would you ask your father in law to do it?

Of course not, but it's just a tree, lil bit of paint and she'll be right.

Classic case of crappy cutting, stupid ideas of paint and sealant and a whole lot of hocus pocus going on with some radio wanker.

There's many good things that can be done, however you wont get the best for your tree from some uneducated two bob tree lopper or painter.

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Old 19th December 2008, 11:44 PM   #3
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Old 20th December 2008, 12:14 AM   #4
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The worst part about that tree painting business is not that it creates a great environment for insects and disease or that it does nothing beneficial at all but gives a false sense of protection........like Ekka said the worst thing is that people think they can heap wounds and injuries on the tree and poof....like magic, it is all better after smearing some "tree" paint on it.

That new swing looks like it will become injurious too. Better way to approach that.

I would call Ekka (Eric) if you want to get the truth and have things done the proper way.
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Old 20th December 2008, 07:19 AM   #5
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The BCC painted a lot, a bluish grey colour. Not sure what it was but seen a few around.

In the picture below I have circled the area painted.


In this picture you can see how it rotted out beneath the paint. The paint is just a facade.


And yeah, this is what happened, the whole tree should come out now ... well, was issues prior to the failure anyway. In a nut shell the council mandates a 3.8m min height clearance above roads, then plants low crowned trees like this so close to the kerb, apparently the garbage truck hit it but there's more to it than that I assure you.


You can see here how low another branch is.


And beneath that branch look at all the wounds from traffic. Now if you hired a Budget Pantec for moving and hit a low tree branch (I did years ago) and copped the $1000 repair bill like I did you'd be mighty pissed at the councils idiotic tree planting and maintenance. Knowing what I know now I would sue for negligence.
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Yeah cities think plant the small tree under the wires when they can be more problem than the big tree growing up and around the wires. Low spread canopies like the one pictured cause problems including high maintenance. My city is guilty of it too.
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Around here the city's top choices are red tip maple and live oaks.oh the stupidity.
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Old 21st December 2008, 02:36 PM   #8
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Thats madness the bcc needs a serious overhaul, We naturally have a standard height on most roads for trees so the Double deck buses can get through any low branches are raised so they can get through, the passengers tend to complain if they get taken out by a branch

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Old 18th December 2009, 09:58 PM   #9
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hi
how are you today just wondering i live in melbourne australia
and would dearly love to grow o poinciana tree red would the climate here
be suitable for this ? if so whats the best way of purchasing one?
thankyou
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Old 28th October 2011, 10:50 AM   #10
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Remember the poinciana is a weed.That is official. Get rid of it and plant Australian natives. Better for the environment and for the fauna
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Remember the poinciana is a weed.That is official. Get rid of it and plant Australian natives. Better for the environment and for the fauna
Please provide evidence of it being a weed.
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Old 30th October 2011, 06:27 AM   #12
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Just google poinciana eric.

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Old 30th October 2011, 01:18 PM   #13
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Just google poinciana eric.

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Trolls run people on errands so a 1 week ban, then do what is asked and provide the information. Providing references and information is fairly normal for most papers and publications, includes here.

If it is your personal opinion that it is a weed then say so.

Poincianas are not listed anywhere official I know of as being a weed.

Here is the Brisbane City Council list.

http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/2010%...by_council.pdf

Here is the National list, once again no poinciana.

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