PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis

TheTreeGuru · 28th August 2009, 07:45 PM

I need to remove a Palm tree @morrow morning and ive been told ththe following things

* You cannot SCARF a palm?

* it will clog ur saws

* You Cannot Put the Palm Leaves or trunk thru a chipper?

* The palms are a pain in the ass to remove?

any help would be appreciated, cheers guys

Jeff Darby · 28th August 2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTreeGuru

I need to remove a Palm tree @morrow morning and ive been told ththe following things

* You cannot SCARF a palm?

* it will clog ur saws

* You Cannot Put the Palm Leaves or trunk thru a chipper?

* The palms are a pain in the ass to remove?

any help would be appreciated, cheers guys

What type of palm is it..?

Jeff Darby · 28th August 2009, 08:37 PM

ohh, derr, ...I just read the bloody heading..lol. It's been a hard day, thank god it's friday..

Jeff Darby · 28th August 2009, 08:41 PM

I have scarfed and felled this type of palm before, just use a powerfull saw with a razor sharp chain and have a couple of blokes on a directional pull rope.

Eric Frei · 28th August 2009, 08:43 PM

I hope you have a really really big chipper with very sharp knives for a Canary Island date palm.

And they do scarf etc .... but the var you got has an outer loose coating of crap to make your day, maybe it's one of those real special ones covered in fishtail ferns up the trunk, people love doing that crap to them.

Your chains do go blunt fast.

Watch out for the spikes on the fronds.

And tell us all about your great time with it.

Garry Brockley · 28th August 2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTreeGuru

I need to remove a Palm tree @morrow morning and ive been told ththe following things

* You cannot SCARF a palm?
Yes you can scarf cut a palm dropped one through a gate today

* it will clog ur saws
not if you have a sharp powerful saw, however a plunge cut then side to side remove the saw then step cut the sides might be needed

* You Cannot Put the Palm Leaves or trunk thru a chipper?

generally recommened as the palms rot the metal and reduce the life of your equipment

* The palms are a pain in the ass to remove?
only because you have to take them to a tip afterwards we felled 12 in all today, 9 cocus, 3 alex mmmsatisfying

any help would be appreciated, cheers guys

i hope this helps just take your time be safe and dont take chances, if in doubt get an experienced pro to do it, remember pride comes before a fall and falls hurt alot

Eric Frei · 28th August 2009, 08:49 PM

I killed 8 Alex palms and 4 Triangle palms today, they all had it coming!

Garry Brockley · 28th August 2009, 09:38 PM

Ah palm slaying feels soooo good,oh yes i forgot to say about the spikes date palms hurt for days afterwards i got eight infections in my arms the last time i slayed one of them.
good luck

TheTreeGuru · 28th August 2009, 10:42 PM

Cheers for the quick response from everybody i will hopefully take sum photos tomorrow.

The Palm Shall Be Punished!!!!

Done it · 28th August 2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTreeGuru

Cheers for the quick response from everybody i will hopefully take sum photos tomorrow.

The Palm Shall Be Punished!!!!

You're the one that's going to be punished.

I find cutting them into the biggest pieces you can and then cutting lengthwise saves blunting your chain as much, and make sure you clean your saw after.

TheTreeGuru · 29th August 2009, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Done it

You're the one that's going to be punished.

I find cutting them into the biggest pieces you can and then cutting lengthwise saves blunting your chain as much, and make sure you clean your saw after.

lol, yes i have been told many a time that i will be sore and infected, i was thinking that cutting down as oppose to accross may far better for the saws, cheers m8 im on my way there now

TrevMcRev · 29th August 2009, 11:11 AM

If you've quoted this job not knowing any of the above you're in for a good lesson today.

I rarely get the job of removing these because i quote accordingly, knowing full well what is involved, start to finish.

There is always someone with a cheap quote though who just hasn't experienced the joys of removing one yet. Short, stubby ones that can be worked from ground level aren't too bad. Once you've got a few m of trunk it's a different storey, esp. if you dont have room to fell it.

Best method is using a crane, 1 cut at the bottom, lift it into a skip bin, go home & clean your saw!

You want to strip it down completely, remove the cover plate over the chainbrake too. It will corrode any metal part of your saw.

stirmantrees · 29th August 2009, 12:57 PM

just had surgery this year for a date thorn that got broken off in my knee. swelled up, couldn't see anything ofcourse, didn't bleed. swelled my knee up a bit for a week then localized to an area that was consistent with the direction i thought it went. when it happened i said, oh no!!! i did not just do that!! looked and saw one part of the thorn broken off the frond i thought i hit. anyways, when they did surgery the doctor laughed and said it shot across the room, literally.
please work slow, good thick gloves can help, a little(although i rarely use them myself), please wear a head protection system , something that provides a mesh barrier between your eye and the tree. and wear safety glasses. chaps would be nice, steel toe boots, etc,etc.
in fact , just shoot the the thing with a rocket launcher, have a beer and post it here.

TheTreeGuru · 29th August 2009, 02:05 PM

IM BACK!!! I Dont know wat i was stressing about, this by far has been amongst the easiest trees to remove, started at 9am finished by 11.30,
I spured up, cut out all the foliage and then we scarfed it, BEAUTIFUL!, i got pronged twicew, my little finger and my upper thigh, which i applied Dettol solution to straight away, will this help??

i had an 026 & an 036
Trunk was about 110 in diameter

Thanks heaps guys, i think my success with this job was being "overly Cautious" and thats why i didnt get spiked too much.
Your help assured me with alot of the differant ways to cut them
I Found:

Remove all leaflets first
Scarf ovewr wat you can
The bigger base needs to get Shaved with the saw
cut blocks into reasonable size for moving

TheTreeGuru · 29th August 2009, 02:30 PM

i also didnt need to sharpen my saws, they did great, i had a brand spankin 026 chain ready but didnt need to use it.
Did i just get Lucky??

Eric Frei · 29th August 2009, 02:39 PM

Yes.

Usually the bottom 1m is an adventicious style of pumped up roots full of crap.

Usually the trunks are full of dirt from ole petioles not being removed and fish fern growing there.

TheTreeGuru · 29th August 2009, 03:07 PM

hey ekka,
yeh there was birdshit everywhere, all the old stubs from the palm going all the way up to the leaves were filled with shit. But no prblem with the saws watsoever, i just cleaned them, the 026 needs a sharpen now but thats just for good measure. because i only had the smaller barred saws i cut the palm block like cheese cubes.

Garry Brockley · 29th August 2009, 10:47 PM

good on you mate well done

stirmantrees · 30th August 2009, 05:26 AM

i highly recomend removing three or four washingtonians with boots all the way up to top. maybe 35-40 foot height and plenty of landscaping to deal with.
easy as pie

Victor Lindsay · 30th August 2009, 10:06 PM

I've never removed one, but I have cleaned them up. Price to clean one starts at $250.00. Here in the Keys, Dates get a lot of workmans comp filings, so you need to price accordingly.

28th August 2009, 07:45 PM	#1
TheTreeGuru Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 12	PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis I need to remove a Palm tree @morrow morning and ive been told ththe following things * You cannot SCARF a palm? * it will clog ur saws * You Cannot Put the Palm Leaves or trunk thru a chipper? * The palms are a pain in the ass to remove? any help would be appreciated, cheers guys

28th August 2009, 08:37 PM	#3
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis ohh, derr, ...I just read the bloody heading..lol. It's been a hard day, thank god it's friday.. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

28th August 2009, 08:41 PM	#4
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis I have scarfed and felled this type of palm before, just use a powerfull saw with a razor sharp chain and have a couple of blokes on a directional pull rope. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

28th August 2009, 08:43 PM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis I hope you have a really really big chipper with very sharp knives for a Canary Island date palm. And they do scarf etc .... but the var you got has an outer loose coating of crap to make your day, maybe it's one of those real special ones covered in fishtail ferns up the trunk, people love doing that crap to them. Your chains do go blunt fast. Watch out for the spikes on the fronds. And tell us all about your great time with it. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th August 2009, 08:49 PM	#7
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis I killed 8 Alex palms and 4 Triangle palms today, they all had it coming! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th August 2009, 09:38 PM	#8
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis Ah palm slaying feels soooo good,oh yes i forgot to say about the spikes date palms hurt for days afterwards i got eight infections in my arms the last time i slayed one of them. good luck __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

28th August 2009, 10:42 PM	#9
TheTreeGuru Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 12	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis Cheers for the quick response from everybody i will hopefully take sum photos tomorrow. The Palm Shall Be Punished!!!!

29th August 2009, 11:11 AM	#12
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis If you've quoted this job not knowing any of the above you're in for a good lesson today. I rarely get the job of removing these because i quote accordingly, knowing full well what is involved, start to finish. There is always someone with a cheap quote though who just hasn't experienced the joys of removing one yet. Short, stubby ones that can be worked from ground level aren't too bad. Once you've got a few m of trunk it's a different storey, esp. if you dont have room to fell it. Best method is using a crane, 1 cut at the bottom, lift it into a skip bin, go home & clean your saw! You want to strip it down completely, remove the cover plate over the chainbrake too. It will corrode any metal part of your saw.

29th August 2009, 12:57 PM	#13
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis just had surgery this year for a date thorn that got broken off in my knee. swelled up, couldn't see anything ofcourse, didn't bleed. swelled my knee up a bit for a week then localized to an area that was consistent with the direction i thought it went. when it happened i said, oh no!!! i did not just do that!! looked and saw one part of the thorn broken off the frond i thought i hit. anyways, when they did surgery the doctor laughed and said it shot across the room, literally. please work slow, good thick gloves can help, a little(although i rarely use them myself), please wear a head protection system , something that provides a mesh barrier between your eye and the tree. and wear safety glasses. chaps would be nice, steel toe boots, etc,etc. in fact , just shoot the the thing with a rocket launcher, have a beer and post it here.

29th August 2009, 02:05 PM	#14
TheTreeGuru Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 12	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis IM BACK!!! I Dont know wat i was stressing about, this by far has been amongst the easiest trees to remove, started at 9am finished by 11.30, I spured up, cut out all the foliage and then we scarfed it, BEAUTIFUL!, i got pronged twicew, my little finger and my upper thigh, which i applied Dettol solution to straight away, will this help?? i had an 026 & an 036 Trunk was about 110 in diameter Thanks heaps guys, i think my success with this job was being "overly Cautious" and thats why i didnt get spiked too much. Your help assured me with alot of the differant ways to cut them I Found: Remove all leaflets first Scarf ovewr wat you can The bigger base needs to get Shaved with the saw cut blocks into reasonable size for moving

29th August 2009, 02:30 PM	#15
TheTreeGuru Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 12	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis i also didnt need to sharpen my saws, they did great, i had a brand spankin 026 chain ready but didnt need to use it. Did i just get Lucky??

29th August 2009, 02:39 PM	#16
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis Yes. Usually the bottom 1m is an adventicious style of pumped up roots full of crap. Usually the trunks are full of dirt from ole petioles not being removed and fish fern growing there. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

29th August 2009, 03:07 PM	#17
TheTreeGuru Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 12	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis hey ekka, yeh there was birdshit everywhere, all the old stubs from the palm going all the way up to the leaves were filled with shit. But no prblem with the saws watsoever, i just cleaned them, the 026 needs a sharpen now but thats just for good measure. because i only had the smaller barred saws i cut the palm block like cheese cubes.

29th August 2009, 10:47 PM	#18
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis good on you mate well done __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

30th August 2009, 05:26 AM	#19
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: PLEASE HELP! bwats the best way to cut down a Palm Canariensis i highly recomend removing three or four washingtonians with boots all the way up to top. maybe 35-40 foot height and plenty of landscaping to deal with. easy as pie

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