palm trees

richardgib · 25th January 2008, 02:00 AM

Hello everyone
I'm new here and just happen to have a question about climbing palm trees
with gaffs, will the gaffs in anyway cause injury to the tree
thanks
RICHARD

Ekka · 25th January 2008, 02:08 AM

Yes they will.

What sort of palm is it, how tall is it, and can it be accessed by ewp or cherrypicker?

richardgib · 25th January 2008, 02:16 AM

EKKA
I don't know what kind of palm it is. I would say it's about 70 or 75 feet tall
my bucket reaches almost halfway and it is accessable to bigger truck

Ekka · 25th January 2008, 02:23 AM

Hmmm, how about a picture then.

Does it have "fan" shaped leaves or long ones?

Maybe describe it. The reason I say this is because differnet palms compartmentalize different ways, some are no worries some rot out. But a bigger bucket is always the best way to go IMHO.

Therrin · 25th January 2008, 05:15 AM

So you've got a bucket truck! That's great!

What do you do with it? I'm only asking because it seems you aren't familiar with spikes, and aren't familiar with specific trees.... sooo...what do you use it for?

As for spiking the palms... if we said "oh yeah, you can shove as many pieces of steel into a palm and cut it and make it look like crap and tear it to pieces and it'll all be okay... would you beleive me?

Of course spiking it will damage it (to some degree). But what is your intent? Do you need to take some dead fronds off? Do you have spikes? You obviously have a bucket truck. Do you know someone who was going to use spikes on it? What did they say about it? etc...

richardgib · 25th January 2008, 11:02 AM

my bucket truck is for telephone work,yes i have my own climbing gear
I turned the job down ,lady wanted her palms done for about $20 a tree
told her to get herself a wetback thanks for the help everyone
richard

Ekka · 25th January 2008, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardgib

I turned the job down ,lady wanted her palms done for about $20 a tree
told her to get herself a wetback thanks for the help everyone
richard

Yes, it's almost a universal phenomena, people up palms with chainsaws must be viewed as low paying labourers worth a lot less than other trades.

newguy18 · 25th January 2008, 11:29 AM

yep thats about how they view all tree workers it seems like but they treat the washing machine repair man like a saint.

quercus · 26th January 2008, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardgib

my bucket truck is for telephone work,yes i have my own climbing gear
I turned the job down ,lady wanted her palms done for about $20 a tree
told her to get herself a wetback thanks for the help everyone
richard

I'd tell her to train a monkey to remove fronds then...

I get sick of this... These are a few things that I'll tell them...

"You made us a fixed price, but the job went a bit faster then planned. That usually implies that we have to pay less."
-Would you gladly pay more if it took five days longer? Thought so...

"A guy in our street will do this work for half the price!!"
-Here's my card, call me when he's at it, and I'll come and hire him. Sorry for wasting your time...

"A few tree-guys who came over to make an estimate, but they say it can't be done!"
-Those who say it can't be done, should get out of the way of the ones who are doing it.

Like I said... I get sick of this.

dannyboysfc · 26th January 2008, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

So you've got a bucket truck! That's great!

What do you do with it? I'm only asking because it seems you aren't familiar with spikes, and aren't familiar with specific trees.... sooo...what do you use it for?

As for spiking the palms... if we said "oh yeah, you can shove as many pieces of steel into a palm and cut it and make it look like crap and tear it to pieces and it'll all be okay... would you beleive me?

Of course spiking it will damage it (to some degree). But what is your intent? Do you need to take some dead fronds off? Do you have spikes? You obviously have a bucket truck. Do you know someone who was going to use spikes on it? What did they say about it? etc...

Therrin, come on man take it easy, you are starting to come across as a sarcastic D$#k.

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardgib

my bucket truck is for telephone work,yes i have my own climbing gear
I turned the job down ,lady wanted her palms done for about $20 a tree
told her to get herself a wetback thanks for the help everyone
richard

Why don't you explain the term wetback and what you are using it to refer to.

Therrin · 26th January 2008, 08:55 PM

I can answer that for ya Danny. Wetbacks are mexicans.... migrant mexican workers who have no business being in the country, but they get paid to do things that alot of other people don't want to do. Why pay someone $20/hr to do something if you can pay someone else $5/hr right?

As for the other... you could use PM to call me a sarcastic d1ck... otherwise I could use the forum to tell you you're a pr1ck for calling me out publicly. See how that works? At least I got the answers I was looking for.

I had a guy ask me the other day "so is the tree heavier when it's full of water?" Sarcasm is just lost on some people. Tell ya what, you lighten up a little, and I'll try to be more serious. =)

dannyboysfc · 26th January 2008, 09:41 PM

Therrin,

I think you took me more seriously than I actually meant it. I didn't mean for you to get your panties in a bunch.

Take it easy man, we dont need critical, sarcastic comments flying around thats all.

As for the wetback thing, I am a little more serious about that. Racism is not cool or acceptable in any way.

Ekka · 26th January 2008, 09:42 PM

Often my little kids are fighting in the background. Two lil girls squabbling over something I have no idea about. So, I go over there to stop the squabbling, yeah they even scratch, punch and kick each other. As I'm closing in on the crime scene the court's in session, both start giving testimony like bullets flying out of a machine gun.

She did it, no this happened bla bla bla ... and then I get there, hopefully none have run away coz then I gotta go track them down and it gets worse.

Anyway, they both cop it!

And comes the yelling but it was her fault and bla bla bla and they cop more then.

Really bad, copping it is like confiscation of the toy causing the issue, quiet time in the room, and although the parents of angels might argue the odd tap with my back scratcher (but rarely coz it loses impact every time you do it).

Once they calmed down I remind them that I'm not there to administer justice, just silence

as hopefully that paves the way to them thinking about their own skills in trying to get what they want without pissing everyone in the house off. Capiche

Sean Freeman · 26th January 2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Racism is not cool or acceptable in any way

I stand with you on that one Danny all the way

newguy18 · 26th January 2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

I stand with you on that one Danny all the way

gotta agree too.i gave up being prejudice,its unhealthy.

TREEMONKEY · 28th January 2008, 05:28 AM

Not Cool!

But anyone that works for 1/4 the going rates Sucks it brings the hole business down.

shaggs · 31st January 2008, 03:25 PM

There is always someone prepared to take the risk for the sake of $15. Yet when it goes pear shaped they scream to high heaven.......sorry cant have it both ways.
Maybe we should carry some pictures of when things go wrong????

Nice comments Quercus

25th January 2008, 02:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
richardgib I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: texas Posts: 4	palm trees Hello everyone I'm new here and just happen to have a question about climbing palm trees with gaffs, will the gaffs in anyway cause injury to the tree thanks RICHARD

25th January 2008, 02:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: palm trees Yes they will. What sort of palm is it, how tall is it, and can it be accessed by ewp or cherrypicker? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

25th January 2008, 02:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
richardgib I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: texas Posts: 4	Re: palm trees EKKA I don't know what kind of palm it is. I would say it's about 70 or 75 feet tall my bucket reaches almost halfway and it is accessable to bigger truck

25th January 2008, 02:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: palm trees Hmmm, how about a picture then. Does it have "fan" shaped leaves or long ones? Maybe describe it. The reason I say this is because differnet palms compartmentalize different ways, some are no worries some rot out. But a bigger bucket is always the best way to go IMHO. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

25th January 2008, 05:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: palm trees So you've got a bucket truck! That's great! What do you do with it? I'm only asking because it seems you aren't familiar with spikes, and aren't familiar with specific trees.... sooo...what do you use it for? As for spiking the palms... if we said "oh yeah, you can shove as many pieces of steel into a palm and cut it and make it look like crap and tear it to pieces and it'll all be okay... would you beleive me? Of course spiking it will damage it (to some degree). But what is your intent? Do you need to take some dead fronds off? Do you have spikes? You obviously have a bucket truck. Do you know someone who was going to use spikes on it? What did they say about it? etc... __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

25th January 2008, 11:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
richardgib I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: texas Posts: 4	Re: palm trees my bucket truck is for telephone work,yes i have my own climbing gear I turned the job down ,lady wanted her palms done for about $20 a tree told her to get herself a wetback thanks for the help everyone richard

25th January 2008, 11:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,679	Re: palm trees yep thats about how they view all tree workers it seems like but they treat the washing machine repair man like a saint. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

26th January 2008, 08:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: palm trees I can answer that for ya Danny. Wetbacks are mexicans.... migrant mexican workers who have no business being in the country, but they get paid to do things that alot of other people don't want to do. Why pay someone $20/hr to do something if you can pay someone else $5/hr right? As for the other... you could use PM to call me a sarcastic d1ck... otherwise I could use the forum to tell you you're a pr1ck for calling me out publicly. See how that works? At least I got the answers I was looking for. I had a guy ask me the other day "so is the tree heavier when it's full of water?" Sarcasm is just lost on some people. Tell ya what, you lighten up a little, and I'll try to be more serious. =) __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703 Last edited by Ekka : 26th January 2008 at 09:29 PM. Reason: spelling

26th January 2008, 09:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
dannyboysfc Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 121	Re: palm trees Therrin, I think you took me more seriously than I actually meant it. I didn't mean for you to get your panties in a bunch. Take it easy man, we dont need critical, sarcastic comments flying around thats all. As for the wetback thing, I am a little more serious about that. Racism is not cool or acceptable in any way.

26th January 2008, 09:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: palm trees Often my little kids are fighting in the background. Two lil girls squabbling over something I have no idea about. So, I go over there to stop the squabbling, yeah they even scratch, punch and kick each other. As I'm closing in on the crime scene the court's in session, both start giving testimony like bullets flying out of a machine gun. She did it, no this happened bla bla bla ... and then I get there, hopefully none have run away coz then I gotta go track them down and it gets worse. Anyway, they both cop it! And comes the yelling but it was her fault and bla bla bla and they cop more then. Really bad, copping it is like confiscation of the toy causing the issue, quiet time in the room, and although the parents of angels might argue the odd tap with my back scratcher (but rarely coz it loses impact every time you do it). Once they calmed down I remind them that I'm not there to administer justice, just silence as hopefully that paves the way to them thinking about their own skills in trying to get what they want without pissing everyone in the house off. Capiche __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

28th January 2008, 05:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
TREEMONKEY Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ONTARIO, CANADA Posts: 96	Re: palm trees Not Cool! But anyone that works for 1/4 the going rates Sucks it brings the hole business down. __________________

31st January 2008, 03:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: palm trees There is always someone prepared to take the risk for the sake of $15. Yet when it goes pear shaped they scream to high heaven.......sorry cant have it both ways. Maybe we should carry some pictures of when things go wrong???? Nice comments Quercus