ID this eucalypt

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 01:16 AM

Looks similar to tereticornis but the leaves are duller and wider plus the tree has more upright form.

Since tereticornis was present on the same site I can say the trunk's browny/pinkish tinge is only for this guy. Older bark that hasn't shed in ribbons is identical to tereticornis.

Not grey gum either.

Sorry, no caps around.

And a close up of the bark and also why it's dying.

dguntertrees · 30th April 2008, 01:49 AM

Does smooth bark continue right to the ground?

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 03:16 AM

Sure does.

Sean Freeman · 30th April 2008, 03:39 AM

Euc saligna?

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 03:41 AM

But the leaves are a bit too wide I think. Also no sock on it.

Sean Freeman · 30th April 2008, 03:44 AM

Ok no stocking then prob Euc propinqua

Sean Freeman · 30th April 2008, 03:46 AM

Have you got this? Key_to_eucalypts_of_Greater_Brisbane.pdf

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 03:46 AM

Nah, not grey gum, barks not quite matt finished enough, this is more of a gloss, leaves are too wide also.

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 03:47 AM

Yeah I have Sean but no caps makes it hard to use that.

I can see a trip to Mt Cootha coming. LOL

Sean Freeman · 30th April 2008, 03:49 AM

Sorry Eric too hard from the pics for me, they are pretty much always caps around on the ground though eh?

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 04:14 AM

I think their lawn mower is made by Hoover or Electrolux. LOL

Bernard Keays · 30th April 2008, 05:18 AM

Ekka...Did you have any more photos. One where the trunk meets the ground. I think Sean's first guess is pretty good as it looks like E. saligna to me as well. Or could it be a E. grandis X tereticornis cross?

Ekka · 30th April 2008, 02:43 PM

Bernard

All those 3 have socks.

I only have video of it and just viewed it, it's smooth all the way to the ground like Angophora.

Tilia · 30th April 2008, 07:31 PM

it ticks alot of the boxes to be a E. tereticornis. might be a hybrid with something else in the series, which might explain the no sexual bits. ????????

Quantum Leaf · 1st May 2008, 03:42 AM

The leaf is too wide to be E. tereticornis or E. propinqua, E.propinqua also has a strongly discolourous leaf and one of the typical characteristics of E. saligna (like any within the Mahogany Group) is the existance of leaf lerp, and generally profuse number of capsules.
Unfortunately without a capsule, bud or flower, identification is rarely certain. If it is a remnant species then you can narrow down the search, the suggestion of an intergrade (natural hybrid) is likely. It is common for some Eucs to skip a year or 2 from flowering. I generally find in the search for capsules and buds that if the area below the tree is maintained, then their is a chance of finding a capsule, bud stuck in a crotch, or close to the root flare where the mower dosn't reach. Otherwise the lack of these can also suggest that it is a very small capsule (like E.nicholii)that decays quickly, or is just difficult to find.
Their is an identification program called 'Euclid', which has an impresive key that can work without the bud or capsule.
Allowing for the number of species (approx. 850) as well as the intergrades, and variation within this genus, it would have to rate as one of the most difficult plant species in the world to identify.

dguntertrees · 2nd May 2008, 04:58 AM

I would go with Tereticornis hybrid too. But then I'm a Pom who's been here about 5 minutes....

Ekka · 6th May 2008, 01:42 PM

Got some caps today and compared them to other tereticornis caps on site ... definitely tereticornis. The leaves, dunno, just an anomaly.

Robert STAVROU · 8th May 2008, 05:23 PM

Morning, the capsules appear to be E. teretecornis; my friend John tells me that the calypta (opperculum) would be definitive.

30th April 2008, 01:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
dguntertrees Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mudgeeraba, SE Queensland Posts: 94	Re: ID this eucalypt Does smooth bark continue right to the ground?

30th April 2008, 03:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: ID this eucalypt Sure does. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th April 2008, 03:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: ID this eucalypt Euc saligna? __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

30th April 2008, 03:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: ID this eucalypt But the leaves are a bit too wide I think. Also no sock on it. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th April 2008, 03:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: ID this eucalypt Ok no stocking then prob Euc propinqua __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

30th April 2008, 03:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: ID this eucalypt Have you got this? Key_to_eucalypts_of_Greater_Brisbane.pdf __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

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Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: ID this eucalypt Nah, not grey gum, barks not quite matt finished enough, this is more of a gloss, leaves are too wide also. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: ID this eucalypt Yeah I have Sean but no caps makes it hard to use that. I can see a trip to Mt Cootha coming. LOL __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: ID this eucalypt Sorry Eric too hard from the pics for me, they are pretty much always caps around on the ground though eh? __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

30th April 2008, 04:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: ID this eucalypt I think their lawn mower is made by Hoover or Electrolux. LOL __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th April 2008, 05:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bernard Keays Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 30	Re: ID this eucalypt Ekka...Did you have any more photos. One where the trunk meets the ground. I think Sean's first guess is pretty good as it looks like E. saligna to me as well. Or could it be a E. grandis X tereticornis cross? __________________ Bernie

30th April 2008, 02:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: ID this eucalypt Bernard All those 3 have socks. I only have video of it and just viewed it, it's smooth all the way to the ground like Angophora. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th April 2008, 07:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tilia Break'n the ice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 8	Re: ID this eucalypt it ticks alot of the boxes to be a E. tereticornis. might be a hybrid with something else in the series, which might explain the no sexual bits. ????????

1st May 2008, 03:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Quantum Leaf Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Illawarra, NSW Posts: 13	Re: ID this eucalypt The leaf is too wide to be E. tereticornis or E. propinqua, E.propinqua also has a strongly discolourous leaf and one of the typical characteristics of E. saligna (like any within the Mahogany Group) is the existance of leaf lerp, and generally profuse number of capsules. Unfortunately without a capsule, bud or flower, identification is rarely certain. If it is a remnant species then you can narrow down the search, the suggestion of an intergrade (natural hybrid) is likely. It is common for some Eucs to skip a year or 2 from flowering. I generally find in the search for capsules and buds that if the area below the tree is maintained, then their is a chance of finding a capsule, bud stuck in a crotch, or close to the root flare where the mower dosn't reach. Otherwise the lack of these can also suggest that it is a very small capsule (like E.nicholii)that decays quickly, or is just difficult to find. Their is an identification program called 'Euclid', which has an impresive key that can work without the bud or capsule. Allowing for the number of species (approx. 850) as well as the intergrades, and variation within this genus, it would have to rate as one of the most difficult plant species in the world to identify.

2nd May 2008, 04:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
dguntertrees Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mudgeeraba, SE Queensland Posts: 94	Re: ID this eucalypt I would go with Tereticornis hybrid too. But then I'm a Pom who's been here about 5 minutes....

8th May 2008, 05:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
Robert STAVROU Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 3	Re: ID this eucalypt Morning, the capsules appear to be E. teretecornis; my friend John tells me that the calypta (opperculum) would be definitive. __________________ STAV