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20th April 2008, 05:36 AM
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| Gettin' motoring Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia
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|  hi all help with tree age Hi all Im new to this so will take a while to get it together. Im in Melbourne and were still waiting for some meaningful rain. Had heaps of wind a couple of weeks ago 100kms per hour. Saw a Liquid amber destroyed about 30feet of it lucky for the owners it landed on their car and not their house. Am studying a degrees in Hort at Burnley partime am in my 3rd year with only 3 more to go (lol). Am doing Arb at the minute so am finding that really interesting. Thanks for your help today Eric Ive been reading the articles which is why I didnt realise there was a thead to reply to sorry about that. I have a better idea about a tree report now. Does anyone want to have a guess of the age of a Eucalyptus cladocalyx that has a diametre at brest height of 4.9 metres Im guessing at least 100 years old anybody else have any ideas. better go and got the 11yr old to bed look forward to hearing back. Cheers Jenny |
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20th April 2008, 05:37 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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|  Re: hi all help with tree age Sounds like a beauty...any pics?
__________________ Sean  Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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20th April 2008, 05:49 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Re: hi all help with tree age What a beauty!!!  I be comfortable with 100-150yrs, but in all honesty depending on the local conditions that tree could be as old as 200yrs+
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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20th April 2008, 06:01 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Re: hi all help with tree age Aha...how long is a piece of string?? Probably in excess of 500yrs, there are Tasmanian forest Eucs dated at 375yrs (if memory serves me right!) It comes down to the conditions in the particular site, how much/little impact we have had, both directly on the tree and indirectly on the local environment. Anything over 150yrs in our Aussie urban environment is very rare!!!
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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20th April 2008, 06:07 AM
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| Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: hi all help with tree age Jokes aside the tree is exceedingly old. Interesting Sean don't you think how such national treasures are still placed in grassland and allowed all of the creature discomforts of modern life right up to their flare!!! |
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20th April 2008, 06:13 AM
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| Gettin' motoring Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Re: hi all help with tree age You cant probably make it out in the photo as Ive shrunk it, but the tree is actually in a childrens traffic school. The land is owned by the council and is leased to a private company. The council has 3 trees on their significant tree register and they are all palms.mmmm |
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20th April 2008, 06:22 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Re: hi all help with tree age We are such a long way from really understanding why certain individual trees are able to persist for extraordinarily long periods in the face of incredibly unfavourable conditions, yet generally trees of all species struggle (relative to their potential life span) in our anthropogenic environment. I would love to take samples of the roots and the soil (the rhizosphere in other words) from such trees, examine the drift and solid geology, the history of the site, the particular physical characteristics of that tree..leaf size, photosynthetic rates, sap flows etc...establish just where it is getting its water from. No simple one size fits all answers for me...in all likelihood this tree is not really that old, compared to the age it could potentially reach (but never will) However for me such trees should be used to help us recognise our own history, our own impacts good and bad...change along the eastern seaboard goes on at such a pace in less than 10yrs areas are totally unrecognisable, lessons learnt are lost in the mists only to be repeated over and over...but hey you can always plant another pine!
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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20th April 2008, 06:27 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Re: hi all help with tree age There are some truely awesome trees down there with you Jenjoe, and the LGA has done a fairly good job at committing resources to maintain and protect them...one of my favs is the golden elm on Punt St...theres a thread somewhere in the past with lovely pics I took 2yrs ago. There's also some really excellent Arborists down there.
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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20th April 2008, 06:32 AM
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| Gettin' motoring Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Re: hi all help with tree age yes there are which is reassuring. Iit would be a shame to think that some hysterical parent or other could cause the demise of such a beautiful specimen. Im just doing a report for uni but it does bring up lots of issues, which I suppose its supposed to, about values and how we decide what our values are as a community |
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20th April 2008, 06:37 AM
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| Gettin' motoring Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| Re: hi all help with tree age I have a lot to learn. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I have many more where they came from but may save them for another day. Cheers Jenny  |
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23rd April 2008, 04:31 AM
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| Astronaut  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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| Re: hi all help with tree age A lone cladocalyx down here in Melbourne can be that size quite easily by about 80 years. Could be 100.... but I doubt any older. Does the age of the building or other site history give any clues? What suburb? We are taking down the remains of a severely storm battered one tommorow at a National Trust Property. One of a large stand planted in the late 1920's. Oh, going by the pic, I think your Diameter at Breast Height measurement must be circumference to give 4.9m  DBH will be approx 150cm  |
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23rd April 2008, 04:53 AM
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| PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland
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| Re: hi all help with tree age Ah Trev the advantage of a little local knowledge.. 
__________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran |
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