help with young pin oak!

blkpitbull · 16th May 2009, 01:03 AM

Help please.

My daughter and I planted and little sapling (about 6-8 inches then) pin oak about 3 years ago. Well early this spring (before any leaves we on any trees yet) high winds broke the top/leader out of it. It was about 4 feet tall, but now is about 3 ft tall. I trimmed its down to just about the last/highest ring. Its grow feircly and ALL limbs are growing, full of leaves. BUT there is no leader now, and seems to be no sign of one trying to come out trough the top. My question is should I just let it go a grow, however it may turn out?? Or is it pointless to let it grow with no leader growing?? I can get a few pics this weekend and let you guys see. Id hate to take it out, but if its not going to grow right I will. I was soooooo sick when I seen it broke!

newguy18 · 16th May 2009, 02:10 AM

Pics will help,but if it was taking back to a proper node[called a crown reduction,do not confuse that with topping]then it should be fine.

blkpitbull · 16th May 2009, 03:03 AM

thanks, I will snap some pictures saturday.

I dont know if I understand the "node" comment.

The top broke out of it, right about the top "ring" of branches. I just trimmed it alittle bit more to make the break a clean cut......

pics coming

newguy18 · 16th May 2009, 07:49 AM

A node is a leader or limb that when doing a crown reduction your suppose to cut back to,that way the chosen leader will assume the role of the leader.

blkpitbull · 16th May 2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

A node is a leader or limb that when doing a crown reduction your suppose to cut back to,that way the chosen leader will assume the role of the leader.

OH, I dont think I did it right then!! I will post some pics tommorrow, if you dont mind looking at them for me

blkpitbull · 17th May 2009, 10:16 AM

OK here are some pics I snapped today. I hope the tree is ok, I mean its healthy, and growing awesome. But if its not going to grow right I will remove it, but I'd hate to......

thanks

it broke off right above where I cut it clean...

thanks for the help!!

pcarborist · 17th May 2009, 12:10 PM

Looks like you can train a new leader, just select the healthiest, most vertical secondary stem; prop it up with a stick and stretchy tape and subordinate the other four secondarys to regain apical dominance.

newguy18 · 17th May 2009, 03:09 PM

I think the tree will be fine,the damage was done very early in its life,by the time it gets to full maturity,another node will take over,plus the tree will occlude over the wound just fine.

blkpitbull · 17th May 2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

I think the tree will be fine,te damage was done very early in its life,by the time it gets to full maturity,another node will take over,plus the tree will occlude over the wound just fine.

SO I should let it be, and let er grow???

Treeson · 17th May 2009, 09:05 PM

Looks like it should come away no problem. I reckon leave it be and keep up the staking ready for a natural leader to come through.

blkpitbull · 18th May 2009, 02:26 AM

THanks for the replies so far!!! I feel much better knowing that it'll not need removing!!! thanks!

newguy18 · 18th May 2009, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkpitbull

SO I should let it be, and let er grow???

Yep,maybe a little mulch around the base,just for moisture retention and to prevent root compaction.

blkpitbull · 18th May 2009, 07:48 AM

thanks for the advice, appreciate everything!

16th May 2009, 01:03 AM	#1
blkpitbull Sappling Join Date: May 2009 Location: inthewoodsofsouthernky Posts: 7	help with young pin oak! Help please. My daughter and I planted and little sapling (about 6-8 inches then) pin oak about 3 years ago. Well early this spring (before any leaves we on any trees yet) high winds broke the top/leader out of it. It was about 4 feet tall, but now is about 3 ft tall. I trimmed its down to just about the last/highest ring. Its grow feircly and ALL limbs are growing, full of leaves. BUT there is no leader now, and seems to be no sign of one trying to come out trough the top. My question is should I just let it go a grow, however it may turn out?? Or is it pointless to let it grow with no leader growing?? I can get a few pics this weekend and let you guys see. Id hate to take it out, but if its not going to grow right I will. I was soooooo sick when I seen it broke!

16th May 2009, 02:10 AM	#2
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: help with young pin oak! Pics will help,but if it was taking back to a proper node[called a crown reduction,do not confuse that with topping]then it should be fine. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

16th May 2009, 03:03 AM	#3
blkpitbull Sappling Join Date: May 2009 Location: inthewoodsofsouthernky Posts: 7	Re: help with young pin oak! thanks, I will snap some pictures saturday. I dont know if I understand the "node" comment. The top broke out of it, right about the top "ring" of branches. I just trimmed it alittle bit more to make the break a clean cut...... pics coming

16th May 2009, 07:49 AM	#4
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: help with young pin oak! A node is a leader or limb that when doing a crown reduction your suppose to cut back to,that way the chosen leader will assume the role of the leader. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

17th May 2009, 10:16 AM	#6
blkpitbull Sappling Join Date: May 2009 Location: inthewoodsofsouthernky Posts: 7	Re: help with young pin oak! OK here are some pics I snapped today. I hope the tree is ok, I mean its healthy, and growing awesome. But if its not going to grow right I will remove it, but I'd hate to...... thanks it broke off right above where I cut it clean... thanks for the help!!

17th May 2009, 12:10 PM	#7
pcarborist Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: PC Posts: 177	Re: help with young pin oak! Looks like you can train a new leader, just select the healthiest, most vertical secondary stem; prop it up with a stick and stretchy tape and subordinate the other four secondarys to regain apical dominance. __________________ parkcityarborist

17th May 2009, 03:09 PM	#8
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: help with young pin oak! I think the tree will be fine,the damage was done very early in its life,by the time it gets to full maturity,another node will take over,plus the tree will occlude over the wound just fine. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler Last edited by newguy18; 18th May 2009 at 02:37 AM.

17th May 2009, 09:05 PM	#10
Treeson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 177	Re: help with young pin oak! Looks like it should come away no problem. I reckon leave it be and keep up the staking ready for a natural leader to come through.

18th May 2009, 02:26 AM	#11
blkpitbull Sappling Join Date: May 2009 Location: inthewoodsofsouthernky Posts: 7	Re: help with young pin oak! THanks for the replies so far!!! I feel much better knowing that it'll not need removing!!! thanks!

18th May 2009, 07:48 AM	#13
blkpitbull Sappling Join Date: May 2009 Location: inthewoodsofsouthernky Posts: 7	Re: help with young pin oak! thanks for the advice, appreciate everything!

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