have they died?

beechnut · 15th August 2007, 01:51 PM

We have 2 grafted Sailx trees in large pots, they`re into their 3rd year, but this week all the leaves have gone brown and crispy in one fell swoop. there are a few green leaves on the branches but not many. they get watered well but not overly much. should we wait or what?

newguy18 · 15th August 2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beechnut

We have 2 grafted Sailx trees in large pots, they`re into their 3rd year, but this week all the leaves have gone brown and crispy in one fell swoop. there are a few green leaves on the branches but not many. they get watered well but not overly much. should we wait or what?

Some pics would help,how much do you fertilize them?

mdvaden · 15th August 2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by beechnut

We have 2 grafted Sailx trees in large pots, they`re into their 3rd year, but this week all the leaves have gone brown and crispy in one fell swoop. there are a few green leaves on the branches but not many. they get watered well but not overly much. should we wait or what?

So what's different in the past few weeks beside water.

Weather change? Hot? Cold? Wind?

Any workers or contractors around the home?

Herbicide use on a lawn?

Fertilized the trees?

Sounds like someone or something has changed something next to them or in the vicinity.

Ekka · 16th August 2007, 12:51 AM

2 seperate trees, 2 seperate pots, both stuffed!

Hey, I have 4 bouganvillia bambino's in seperate pots out the front. I neglected them a little and all of them in sync got crusty at the same time.

A quick water and deadwood and they're all OK now, however now I take more care.

Now I'm not suggesting you do that, just that it is possible for them both to do the same thing at the same time.

You need to pull them out of the pots.

My hunch, root bound.

Salix have vigoorous roots like ficus, as they get pot bound they also tend to become hydrophobic (repel water).

So, have a look if you can.

Also, if you get them out of the pot check the pot for drainage, maybe they sat in a well of water if those holes were blocked.

Anyway, bit of a root prune with secatures, cut off any circling roots and thin the mat out, back into the pot with some quality potting mix that hopefully contains some soil and water.

That's what I do, then if they died I'd sleep well at night anyway.

Coz I did all I could.

mdvaden · 16th August 2007, 08:13 AM

That's true. If they were pot-bound, and "heavy" on foliage, defoliation could happen if enough water wasn't applied soon enough - even by a matter of hours.

Might be time for bigger pots.

Ekka · 16th August 2007, 10:01 PM

Oh, they're grafted, I overlooked that ... onto what root stock I wonder?

beechnut · 22nd August 2007, 02:46 PM

thanks guys
we have`t got lawn so no need for weedkiller,no pesticides or herbicides been adding a general liquid feed when everything else gets fed. weather was very hot, then quite windy, then very heavy rain and more wind followed by dry spells again. There are a few green shoots starting to come up and i stuck my finger down into the compost and it was damp but not soggy but then again that was only the top 3 inches, my fingers ain`t that long. the pots are clay about 40 cms across and 35cms deep....do i need to go bigger

newguy18 · 22nd August 2007, 04:23 PM

If the roots are girddling like Ekka mentioned you should plant them or yes get bigger pots don't forget to cut off the girrdling roots like Ekka mentioned..

15th August 2007, 01:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
beechnut I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: leicestershire Posts: 2	have they died? We have 2 grafted Sailx trees in large pots, they`re into their 3rd year, but this week all the leaves have gone brown and crispy in one fell swoop. there are a few green leaves on the branches but not many. they get watered well but not overly much. should we wait or what?

16th August 2007, 12:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,868	2 seperate trees, 2 seperate pots, both stuffed! Hey, I have 4 bouganvillia bambino's in seperate pots out the front. I neglected them a little and all of them in sync got crusty at the same time. A quick water and deadwood and they're all OK now, however now I take more care. Now I'm not suggesting you do that, just that it is possible for them both to do the same thing at the same time. You need to pull them out of the pots. My hunch, root bound. Salix have vigoorous roots like ficus, as they get pot bound they also tend to become hydrophobic (repel water). So, have a look if you can. Also, if you get them out of the pot check the pot for drainage, maybe they sat in a well of water if those holes were blocked. Anyway, bit of a root prune with secatures, cut off any circling roots and thin the mat out, back into the pot with some quality potting mix that hopefully contains some soil and water. That's what I do, then if they died I'd sleep well at night anyway. Coz I did all I could. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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mdvaden Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 564	That's true. If they were pot-bound, and "heavy" on foliage, defoliation could happen if enough water wasn't applied soon enough - even by a matter of hours. Might be time for bigger pots. __________________ ____________________________________ Grove of Redwood TITANS Oregon BIGOOT trap

16th August 2007, 10:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,868	Oh, they're grafted, I overlooked that ... onto what root stock I wonder? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

22nd August 2007, 02:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
beechnut I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: leicestershire Posts: 2	have they died thanks guys we have`t got lawn so no need for weedkiller,no pesticides or herbicides been adding a general liquid feed when everything else gets fed. weather was very hot, then quite windy, then very heavy rain and more wind followed by dry spells again. There are a few green shoots starting to come up and i stuck my finger down into the compost and it was damp but not soggy but then again that was only the top 3 inches, my fingers ain`t that long. the pots are clay about 40 cms across and 35cms deep....do i need to go bigger

22nd August 2007, 04:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,629	If the roots are girddling like Ekka mentioned you should plant them or yes get bigger pots don't forget to cut off the girrdling roots like Ekka mentioned.. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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