Tree World  


Go Back   Tree World > All About Trees > Ask an Arborist here

Chinese Elm dying?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 4th May 2010, 01:48 PM   #1
Sappling
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 6
Default Chinese Elm dying?

I have a 60+ year old Chinese Elm out back that has had some issues the last few years. Two Falls ago it lost a huge section in a windstorm. Last year it lost another decent sized chunk off the top in a Summertime severe thunderstorm. So, basically it lost about 30-40% of the tree over the last few years.

Anyway, this year the tree budded as normal, and then went on to produce an enormous amount of seeds. Last week all of the sees blew off of the tree, leaving the tree almost completely bare. What's left are a few patches of very small leaves. Other Chinese Elms around the neighborhood are fully leafed out already. I wasn't too concerned until I noticed there aren't any buds on the branches. Why would the tree produce so many seeds, and then go on not to leaf out? Is this a sign that the tree is dying?
elm77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th May 2010, 02:11 PM   #2
Sappling
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 6
Default Re: Chinese Elm dying?

Woops, it's actually a Siberian Elm, not Chinese Elm.
elm77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 04:14 PM   #3
Sappling
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 6
Default Re: Chinese Elm dying?

Update:

Like I said above it's actually a Siberian Elm. Anyway, the tree ended up leafing out normally by the end of May. It was far later than normal, which is especially surprising given the unseasonal warmth we had in the spring. Even though I couldn't see any buds they must have been there, or sprung back very quickly after I had looked at them. Apparently the act of having such an enormous seed crop must have stunned the tree to the point that it was several weeks behind other similar Siberian Elms around the neighborhood.
elm77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st July 2010, 08:29 PM   #4
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,555
Default Re: Chinese Elm dying?

Typically if a tree loses a significant amount of the crown, it will produce more seed. However, last year was there not a significant amount of rain during the growing season? If so, then the flower buds set last spring survived, despite a lot of the crown being lost. And I believe this spring was somewhat droughty April, May after a lower than normal snowfall winter. Flower development comes first in Siberian and Chinese Elms (before leaves), as does seed development in Siberian Elm. Quite likely the loss of the crown resulted in smaller reserves of energy stores for the following year, and the flower/fruit production severely depleted these stores. THis, along with the dry spring, delayed bud break for the leaves. THe leaf buds are small, and not easily seen.

Siberian Elm is known for branch breakage. You should have an arborist in to check the health and welfare of the tree.
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd July 2010, 08:49 PM   #5
Former Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: new york
Posts: 3
Default Re: Chinese Elm dying?

I don't think the old tree will die, I suggest the old tree just like normal trees, it must grow more seeds.As we all know, the old tree suffered a big paiful, but it still growing. It's great, isn't it?
Lucywu2012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2010, 07:42 AM   #6
Mature tree
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 373
Default Re: Chinese Elm dying?

Siberian elm is also known for it relatively short life.

It is most likely dying on you right now.

Removal may soon be in order.
__________________
TreeSpecialist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th July 2010, 03:00 PM   #7
Veteran Heritage Status
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,555
Default Re: Chinese Elm dying?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeSpecialist View Post
Siberian elm is also known for it relatively short life.

It is most likely dying on you right now.

Removal may soon be in order.
How long do Siberian Elms last in Texas? In Ontario, they live around 60 - 90 years. And we probably don't have as much ice damage as Texas does.
Brent Ferris is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pruning Chinese Pistache 'Keith Davey' pasomike Ask an Arborist here 21 28th August 2011 09:26 PM
Chinese Pistache Question - Color Performance rwebb6 General Tree Chat 1 10th November 2010 04:58 PM
prolific leafdrop on naturestrip chinese elm grandma2.03 Ask an Arborist here 5 24th February 2010 03:19 PM
difference between chinaberry and chinese pistachio projectx633 Ask an Arborist here 4 8th November 2009 09:40 PM
Chinese elm Bug and/ or Disease problem? Trees are Tricky Ask an Arborist here 1 7th September 2009 09:39 AM


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 10:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Advertising on Treeworld
TreeWorld @ 2012