Black walnut Log Value?

DBS · 17th October 2007, 08:54 AM

Can anyone assess the value of a Black walnut log approx. 8-10 feet long and approx. 3 feet in diameter?

i will try to snag a pic of it today.

-Daryl

Ekka · 18th October 2007, 01:41 AM

Around here, hmmm, about $300 to dump it for ya.

DBS · 18th October 2007, 05:44 AM

That answered my question. I was wondering what the situation was here down the road. I had been watching a tree come down and happened to notice that the trunk remained on site and customer had attached a for sale sign to it.

I didn?t think that it was anything extravagant; i wondered why it would be left on site. Perhaps the contractor assured him he had "gold" and suggested he sell it. It then becomes less work for the same money for the contractor.

-Daryl

Ekka · 18th October 2007, 12:11 PM

It could be milled and the timber used I suppose.

Often on large trees with a decent trunk people ask if it's it worth anything, but in most cases even if it were milled it's only worth something after the processing which is time intensive.

So most logs are taken for free, milled for free providing the "miller" keeps it.

Commercial mills may pay a small sum for it but they fear nails and other foreign objects in urban timber could do more damage than it's worth to their saws.

redstree · 18th October 2007, 08:45 PM

The really big money comes from the companies that turn logs into vaneer. Ekka is correct. Urban logs are highly suspect for some sort of foreign matter in the wood.

Iron nails will discolor the wood and decrease the value of Walnut, which is prized for it's beautiful grain and color. In urban settings you can find nails, steel fencing, clothsline pulleys, horse shoes, etc. Many of the progressive mills now utilise metal detectors to protect their blades, but that does not prevent discoloration of the wood.

If the tree was in decline for any length of time before it was cut down then there is a very high probability that it was being attacked by insects that seek out stressed trees. This would decrease the potential value as saw wood or vaneer.

Sean Freeman · 18th October 2007, 10:59 PM

Some really wise points there redstree

...on a side line I like your tag but you know you can drive a MINI without pants too.

Ekka · 19th October 2007, 02:03 AM

Sean, up your way what sort of timber might be worth milling?

Sean Freeman · 19th October 2007, 04:04 AM

Stephen's business used to have a close relationship with a miller but he's out of that now so we don't have any outlet for big sticks, but when we were handing them over....oddly enough mango Mangofera indica was cited as having the very best grain for really high value slabs. Both the Albizia's that grow up here saman and lebbeck have good timber, of course Castanospermum blackbean, when its old enough.

I have seen Camphor turned into beautiful bowls, though I'm told the timber is not healthy to mill..allergy problems from the dust.

clementine · 22nd October 2007, 01:50 PM

What about selling it to one of those wood sculptor/sculptress/carver/artist types. Maybe they could wang a full size Dolphin out of that piece!
There are a few shops here selling this type of work and it's not cheap even in light timber.

Failing all else, at that size, it has to be good for a few logs or is it a bugger to cut up?

DBS · 22nd October 2007, 02:21 PM

It wasn?t my job. It was just down the street from where I live. I wondered if the black walnut had significant value.

But as many had suggested... logs from residential areas are prone to having metallic objects imbedded into them making it not worth the risk for a mill or even a conscious chainsaw carver to do anything with.

-Daryl

Ekka · 23rd October 2007, 02:50 AM

DBS can you get it for yourself and try slab it for nicks? Some 2" thick table/bench tops varnished would be cool.

I see some of the rough timber stuff for sale at markets and extreme prices, aint even made that good. If it's cut pretty parallel you can usually find a place to sand it even on a large machine ... or have a go yourself.

DBS · 23rd October 2007, 12:05 PM

I'll go and knock on the door and see what they asking... its been sitting there for over a month now... and no more 4 sale sign.

standby.. lol

-D

Quintrex · 23rd October 2007, 01:22 PM

For big slabs, you can hire a floor sanding machine to tidy them up. It works ok.

17th October 2007, 08:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
DBS Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 205	Black walnut Log Value? Can anyone assess the value of a Black walnut log approx. 8-10 feet long and approx. 3 feet in diameter? i will try to snag a pic of it today. -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

18th October 2007, 01:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Black walnut Log Value? Around here, hmmm, about $300 to dump it for ya. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

18th October 2007, 05:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
DBS Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 205	Re: Black walnut Log Value? That answered my question. I was wondering what the situation was here down the road. I had been watching a tree come down and happened to notice that the trunk remained on site and customer had attached a for sale sign to it. I didn?t think that it was anything extravagant; i wondered why it would be left on site. Perhaps the contractor assured him he had "gold" and suggested he sell it. It then becomes less work for the same money for the contractor. -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

18th October 2007, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Black walnut Log Value? It could be milled and the timber used I suppose. Often on large trees with a decent trunk people ask if it's it worth anything, but in most cases even if it were milled it's only worth something after the processing which is time intensive. So most logs are taken for free, milled for free providing the "miller" keeps it. Commercial mills may pay a small sum for it but they fear nails and other foreign objects in urban timber could do more damage than it's worth to their saws. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

18th October 2007, 08:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
redstree Sappling Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 23	Re: Black walnut Log Value? The really big money comes from the companies that turn logs into vaneer. Ekka is correct. Urban logs are highly suspect for some sort of foreign matter in the wood. Iron nails will discolor the wood and decrease the value of Walnut, which is prized for it's beautiful grain and color. In urban settings you can find nails, steel fencing, clothsline pulleys, horse shoes, etc. Many of the progressive mills now utilise metal detectors to protect their blades, but that does not prevent discoloration of the wood. If the tree was in decline for any length of time before it was cut down then there is a very high probability that it was being attacked by insects that seek out stressed trees. This would decrease the potential value as saw wood or vaneer. __________________ Drive a MINI, the most fun you can have with your trousers on.

18th October 2007, 10:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Black walnut Log Value? Some really wise points there redstree ...on a side line I like your tag but you know you can drive a MINI without pants too. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

19th October 2007, 02:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Black walnut Log Value? Sean, up your way what sort of timber might be worth milling? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

19th October 2007, 04:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Black walnut Log Value? Stephen's business used to have a close relationship with a miller but he's out of that now so we don't have any outlet for big sticks, but when we were handing them over....oddly enough mango Mangofera indica was cited as having the very best grain for really high value slabs. Both the Albizia's that grow up here saman and lebbeck have good timber, of course Castanospermum blackbean, when its old enough. I have seen Camphor turned into beautiful bowls, though I'm told the timber is not healthy to mill..allergy problems from the dust. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

22nd October 2007, 01:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
clementine Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Portugal Posts: 288	Re: Black walnut Log Value? What about selling it to one of those wood sculptor/sculptress/carver/artist types. Maybe they could wang a full size Dolphin out of that piece! There are a few shops here selling this type of work and it's not cheap even in light timber. Failing all else, at that size, it has to be good for a few logs or is it a bugger to cut up? __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for you are crunchy and taste of chicken! Builder in Central Portugal

22nd October 2007, 02:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
DBS Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 205	Re: Black walnut Log Value? It wasn?t my job. It was just down the street from where I live. I wondered if the black walnut had significant value. But as many had suggested... logs from residential areas are prone to having metallic objects imbedded into them making it not worth the risk for a mill or even a conscious chainsaw carver to do anything with. -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

23rd October 2007, 02:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: Black walnut Log Value? DBS can you get it for yourself and try slab it for nicks? Some 2" thick table/bench tops varnished would be cool. I see some of the rough timber stuff for sale at markets and extreme prices, aint even made that good. If it's cut pretty parallel you can usually find a place to sand it even on a large machine ... or have a go yourself. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

23rd October 2007, 12:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
DBS Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 205	Re: Black walnut Log Value? I'll go and knock on the door and see what they asking... its been sitting there for over a month now... and no more 4 sale sign. standby.. lol -D __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

23rd October 2007, 01:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 464	Re: Black walnut Log Value? For big slabs, you can hire a floor sanding machine to tidy them up. It works ok.

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