TM-Southern Div Chipper Development

jim1nz · 1st November 2007, 10:38 AM

Aussies know their chippers alright! Yea really good stuff and the experience with different machines shared is great.

Anyone used a side feed chipper, what are they like? I have seen one here but not working.

shaggs · 1st November 2007, 11:38 PM

hi jim
can't say i have used a side feed chipper. although a local guy has an old 1230? vermeer with with the chipper rotating on the chassis. it looks handy as he can park it on the street but feed from the driveway. no working on the road. i'm not sure if it was standard, an option or aftermarket.
bandit have their chipper/box combo with the chipper rotating as well.

TrevMcRev · 2nd November 2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jim1nz

Anyone used a side feed chipper, what are they like? I have seen one here but not working.

I fed 1 once many years ago. It was hired in for the day. Absolutely ridiculous machine. Useless. It was a chipstar i think. Fully enclosed, ex council machine.

Would have been quiker to stack branches on a trailer.

Tree Machine · 2nd November 2007, 05:41 AM

That's one of the beauties of the 6" model. You uncouple, swing the machine 90 degrees one way, rotate the discharge chute back 90 degrees the other way to the truck. I do this all the time. It's either rotate the machine once, or turn every single limb.

I find this most useful in certain driveways lined with a fence. Back in, turn the machine so the infeed pan faces the open gate instead of you and the brush coming through the gate, and then turning all the brush a quarter turn to feed it. Side-feed machine, no need for a turntable, plus it allows you to pass between the chipper and the back of the truck without having to repetitively step over the tongue. Significant on jobs where you're parked for extended periods.

It's a small chipper. You need to extract all the benefits it has to offer in terms of efficiency to make up for the diminished capacity. Pointing the infeed at the drop zone can save significant effort in some instances.

I can't express enough, the importance of the front rolling caster wheel jack. It was one of my first modifications, one that I use just about every day. It's one of those features that's uniquely 6" as any bigger chipper is too heavy to move about by hand. This was the primary reason I chose a 6" model.

Here's a couple random images from a number of years ago expressing that.

Tree Machine · 2nd November 2007, 05:42 AM

That's one of the beauties of the 6" model. You uncouple, swing the machine 90 (or more) degrees one way, rotate the discharge chute back the other way to the truck. I do this all the time. It's either rotate the machine once, or turn every single limb.

I find this most useful in certain driveways lined with a fence. Back in, turn the machine so the infeed pan faces the open gate instead of you and the brush coming through the gate, and then turning all the brush a quarter turn to feed it. Side-feed machine, no need for a turntable, plus it allows you to pass between the chipper and the back of the truck without having to repetitively step over the tongue. Significant on jobs where you're parked for extended periods.

It's a small chipper. You need to extract all the benefits it has to offer in terms of efficiency to make up for the diminished capacity. Pointing the infeed at the drop zone can save significant effort in some instances.

I can't express enough, the importance of the front rolling caster wheel jack. It was one of my first modifications, one that I use just about every day. It's one of those features that's uniquely 6" as any bigger chipper is too heavy to move about by hand. This was the primary reason I chose a 6" model.

Here's a couple random images from a number of years ago expressing that.

TrevMcRev · 5th November 2007, 03:32 AM

I had a jockey wheel on mine too TM! Jack stand at the back for lifting feedwheel. Stand for witches hats. Vice for sharpening. Toolbox for........
tools! 31hp duetz diesel donk.

I think the aussie ones are on a stronger chassis with beefier suspension & wheels too.

Quintrex · 5th November 2007, 10:04 PM

I had the same with the 86hp Perkins, bullet proof little machine. Had an 18" bandit, but had a lot of problems with that cracking up, auto feed never working and drive motors constantly breaking shafts.
Still have 12" Austchip with 133hp 6 cyl perkins, nearly 7000hrs now and very few problems, bought new in 1994. Wish it had lift and crush, though.

fatkoala · 5th November 2007, 10:32 PM

A six inch drum would be great, I find drums work better on dead or really hard stuff ,and will still work great with the blades a little dull while dull blades on a disc is just a pain in the arse. I find Horizontal feed rollers flick the brush to one side (usually the side your feeding from) so you get a whack to the head while horizontal ones flick the stuff either up or down so you just have to watch your fingers

shaggs · 6th November 2007, 12:41 AM

Hey trevmcrev, great idea on the jackstand for lifting the feedwheel.
What is it on the bandit 65 that pushes the feed wheel down? Is it just gravity or are there springs/ram?
How does she go with the 31hp duetz?
cheers

TrevMcRev · 8th November 2007, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggs

Hey trevmcrev, great idea on the jackstand for lifting the feedwheel.
What is it on the bandit 65 that pushes the feed wheel down? Is it just gravity or are there springs/ram?
How does she go with the 31hp duetz?
cheers

JUst a couple of springs give it downward force. The jack isnt used as like a lift n crush at all, just for access when blocked or for checking anvil etc.

treekiwi · 14th November 2007, 01:35 PM

Ive got a 90xp, the rear lights have been changed to led's and are mounted under the feed tray, the only other mod is a cone holder at the front of the chipper, welded onto the drawbar, best addition to the chipper i think, would like a hydralic jockey wheel cause its so damn heavy lol, but boy can it eat brush, the feed rollers come into there own when you can just jam it down instead of cutting the damn v crotch with a chainsaw lol

Tree Machine · 15th November 2007, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treekiwi

the feed rollers come into there own when you can just jam it down instead of cutting the damn v crotch with a chainsaw lol

Two methods on that; cut the limb at the V, taking the time to make two pieces for yourself, taking the risk of touching the chain to dirt OR just nick the fork, either side, just a little touch to create a 'relief' cut. The limb is assured to collapse. You've not created more work for yourself, less.

Keeping a handsaw mounted right to the back of the small chipper was one of the handiest things yet. If a fork needs a relief kerf, the handsaw is right there and usually only takes a pull or two.

Life with the little chipper is a bit different. You're not throwing horsepower and size at the job. You refine your method, adapt, and keep your chains sharp because you tend to do a lot more cutting with the chainsaws.

It also helps to love cutting with a chainsaw.

treekiwi · 15th November 2007, 11:15 AM

Hi Tree machine,
personally i would not be patient enough to use the hangsaw at the chipper, especially when the machines werring and brush is piling up behing you, i usually cut the crotches when i drap but find that the rollers mean alot less de-limbing of branches and most of the stem goes through at once, even withsome of those narly conifer varigations which are very clumped and messy...

shaggs · 15th November 2007, 01:00 PM

Yeah guys, have to admit, I too love the lift and crush of the Bandit's. Can make you really lazy when limbing!!!
I worked with a guy once who had a small 3m section of roller converor. Whe having lots of blocks to put thru the 280xp, he just attached the roller conveyor to the infeed, tilt it up slightly and load up. He just lifted the lift n crush as they rooled on in... Very simple and keeps hands away from the infeed.

1st November 2007, 10:38 AM	#26 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development Aussies know their chippers alright! Yea really good stuff and the experience with different machines shared is great. Anyone used a side feed chipper, what are they like? I have seen one here but not working. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

1st November 2007, 11:38 PM	#27 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development hi jim can't say i have used a side feed chipper. although a local guy has an old 1230? vermeer with with the chipper rotating on the chassis. it looks handy as he can park it on the street but feed from the driveway. no working on the road. i'm not sure if it was standard, an option or aftermarket. bandit have their chipper/box combo with the chipper rotating as well.

2nd November 2007, 05:41 AM	#29 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development That's one of the beauties of the 6" model. You uncouple, swing the machine 90 degrees one way, rotate the discharge chute back 90 degrees the other way to the truck. I do this all the time. It's either rotate the machine once, or turn every single limb. I find this most useful in certain driveways lined with a fence. Back in, turn the machine so the infeed pan faces the open gate instead of you and the brush coming through the gate, and then turning all the brush a quarter turn to feed it. Side-feed machine, no need for a turntable, plus it allows you to pass between the chipper and the back of the truck without having to repetitively step over the tongue. Significant on jobs where you're parked for extended periods. It's a small chipper. You need to extract all the benefits it has to offer in terms of efficiency to make up for the diminished capacity. Pointing the infeed at the drop zone can save significant effort in some instances. I can't express enough, the importance of the front rolling caster wheel jack. It was one of my first modifications, one that I use just about every day. It's one of those features that's uniquely 6" as any bigger chipper is too heavy to move about by hand. This was the primary reason I chose a 6" model. Here's a couple random images from a number of years ago expressing that.

5th November 2007, 10:04 PM	#32 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 442	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development I had the same with the 86hp Perkins, bullet proof little machine. Had an 18" bandit, but had a lot of problems with that cracking up, auto feed never working and drive motors constantly breaking shafts. Still have 12" Austchip with 133hp 6 cyl perkins, nearly 7000hrs now and very few problems, bought new in 1994. Wish it had lift and crush, though.

5th November 2007, 10:32 PM	#33 (permalink)
fatkoala Sappling Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mildura Posts: 27	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development A six inch drum would be great, I find drums work better on dead or really hard stuff ,and will still work great with the blades a little dull while dull blades on a disc is just a pain in the arse. I find Horizontal feed rollers flick the brush to one side (usually the side your feeding from) so you get a whack to the head while horizontal ones flick the stuff either up or down so you just have to watch your fingers

6th November 2007, 12:41 AM	#34 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development Hey trevmcrev, great idea on the jackstand for lifting the feedwheel. What is it on the bandit 65 that pushes the feed wheel down? Is it just gravity or are there springs/ram? How does she go with the 31hp duetz? cheers

14th November 2007, 01:35 PM	#36 (permalink)
treekiwi Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 100	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development Ive got a 90xp, the rear lights have been changed to led's and are mounted under the feed tray, the only other mod is a cone holder at the front of the chipper, welded onto the drawbar, best addition to the chipper i think, would like a hydralic jockey wheel cause its so damn heavy lol, but boy can it eat brush, the feed rollers come into there own when you can just jam it down instead of cutting the damn v crotch with a chainsaw lol

15th November 2007, 11:15 AM	#38 (permalink)
treekiwi Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 100	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development Hi Tree machine, personally i would not be patient enough to use the hangsaw at the chipper, especially when the machines werring and brush is piling up behing you, i usually cut the crotches when i drap but find that the rollers mean alot less de-limbing of branches and most of the stem goes through at once, even withsome of those narly conifer varigations which are very clumped and messy...

15th November 2007, 01:00 PM	#39 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: TM-Southern Div Chipper Development Yeah guys, have to admit, I too love the lift and crush of the Bandit's. Can make you really lazy when limbing!!! I worked with a guy once who had a small 3m section of roller converor. Whe having lots of blocks to put thru the 280xp, he just attached the roller conveyor to the infeed, tilt it up slightly and load up. He just lifted the lift n crush as they rooled on in... Very simple and keeps hands away from the infeed.

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