Spikes and spur help?

Cassian Humphreys · 27th January 2008, 09:44 PM

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White Mahogony - Mt Glorious 1998....pdf

newguy18 · 27th January 2008, 09:45 PM

i've done more removals than any other phase of treework.he who pays the bill calls the shots.

Cassian Humphreys · 27th January 2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ozinus

I am not going to argue your claim danny boy. There are trees in the world I feel it is my responsibility to remove. It's not an argument it's a challenge, How many trees can you not spike. How many can you win over your client that deserve the right to live. To stand spikeless! Because you have convinced all others that there is no need for those trees to be removed. Turn it around in your mind so that on the day you bring spikes, your clients weep because they know what you have come to do and it breaks their heart....Like the doctor telling the relative their cousin won't live!! To be a tree warrior!!!!

I love it mate - Cass....

dannyboysfc · 27th January 2008, 10:02 PM

you have your ways I have mine, I love trees and would never remove one that I could save. I constantly try to talk people into pruning rather than removing, but I will remove a tree without shedding a tear if I think that it is the right thing to do. After big takedowns I feel good!!!!!!!!!!!

dannyboysfc · 27th January 2008, 10:04 PM

What would you recomend to do where trees have been overplanted and thinning( selectively removing) improves health of remaining trees?

Ekka · 27th January 2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassian Humphreys

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Jeez Cass, the difference between you and I is I would have preserved that moment on video. LOL, No insult but when giants fall I love the footage.

ozinus · 27th January 2008, 10:27 PM

How old are they and does another client have a need for them might be a good way to start this line of argument?

dannyboysfc · 27th January 2008, 10:32 PM

lets san 20 year old redwoods planted 8 feet apart in a windrow, by trying to transplant them you would be damaging the root of the trees that are to be retained. The answer is that of course you should thin the overplanted area by removing some trees. Live trees have to be taken down sometimes.

Cassian Humphreys · 27th January 2008, 10:40 PM

Danny-boy you are right, there is a time and a place for removals, and best it is done by operators who love their craft.

Its just not for me anymore, give me a big hazard reduction job (see attached), but I have hung up my spikes for good.

But mate its good to hear a fellow tree warrior share his perspective, i'd stand by your side in a brawl anytime.

My utter regards Cass.........

Hazard reduction pruning by Humphreys.....pdf

Cassian Humphreys · 27th January 2008, 10:53 PM

Note - that hazard reduction job was on a Forest red gum - Eucalyptus tereticornis, done August last year)
The tree had a major limb failure (summer break) due to biomechanical constraints (limb elongation, with pronounced supporting wood) and wood embrittlement due to drought stress (dehhydrated wood).

9 hour job with clean up, I shared the climbing (we did a side each) with a long time collueague Dave Gallichan (from Guernsey, ex Merrist wood tree man).

The pic on header (me as climber) is the tree during the reduction -
Cass..........

Cassian Humphreys · 27th January 2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

Jeez Cass, the difference between you and I is I would have preserved that moment on video. LOL, No insult but when giants fall I love the footage.

Mate that was meant to have been my symbolic last removal, I didnt want the memory - these the pics the client took and is now a mate. Cass..........

newguy18 · 28th January 2008, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

Jeez Cass, the difference between you and I is I would have preserved that moment on video. LOL, No insult but when giants fall I love the footage.

Here you go Ekka.

Old Growth Video Sample

RDMOTT · 28th January 2008, 05:36 AM

i'm with Therrin on this one. That's the same exact setup I've been using for almost 10 years. All day comfort and real good on holding the gaff in one place.

Therrin · 28th January 2008, 05:47 AM

Welcome, RDMOTT

Yeah...having those two straps makes a good deal of difference over the single strap ones. Nice thick cushioning... really comfy stuff!

Glad to see ya posting, keep it going mate.

RDMOTT · 28th January 2008, 08:49 AM

Thanks Therrin and Newguy for the welcomes. One thing about the felt pads is in the summer I almost always climb in shorts and sawdust sticks to the felt like glue. Rubs my shins raw after a good days work.

newguy18 · 28th January 2008, 10:15 AM

you can wear shorts?i haven't worn shorts in probanley 3 years.i have to wear jeans all year long.

Therrin · 28th January 2008, 02:05 PM

Yeah, the sawdust sure does stick to the felt....

However, I'm always wearing my Stihl chaps, and 10" boots.

Cutting while wearing shorts, not even jeans between the chain and your skin?

To each his own I suppose.

27th January 2008, 09:44 PM	#76 (permalink)
Cassian Humphreys Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 61	Re: Spikes and spur help? Forgot attachment.......... White Mahogony - Mt Glorious 1998....pdf __________________ Cut through life's drama - With Instinct as your steel and Logic as your temper...

27th January 2008, 09:45 PM	#77 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,740	Re: Spikes and spur help? i've done more removals than any other phase of treework.he who pays the bill calls the shots. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

27th January 2008, 10:02 PM	#79 (permalink)
dannyboysfc Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 122	Re: Spikes and spur help? you have your ways I have mine, I love trees and would never remove one that I could save. I constantly try to talk people into pruning rather than removing, but I will remove a tree without shedding a tear if I think that it is the right thing to do. After big takedowns I feel good!!!!!!!!!!!

27th January 2008, 10:04 PM	#80 (permalink)
dannyboysfc Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 122	Re: Spikes and spur help? What would you recomend to do where trees have been overplanted and thinning( selectively removing) improves health of remaining trees?

27th January 2008, 10:27 PM	#82 (permalink)
ozinus Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 59	Re: Spikes and spur help? How old are they and does another client have a need for them might be a good way to start this line of argument?

27th January 2008, 10:32 PM	#83 (permalink)
dannyboysfc Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 122	Re: Spikes and spur help? lets san 20 year old redwoods planted 8 feet apart in a windrow, by trying to transplant them you would be damaging the root of the trees that are to be retained. The answer is that of course you should thin the overplanted area by removing some trees. Live trees have to be taken down sometimes.

27th January 2008, 10:40 PM	#84 (permalink)
Cassian Humphreys Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 61	Re: Spikes and spur help? Danny-boy you are right, there is a time and a place for removals, and best it is done by operators who love their craft. Its just not for me anymore, give me a big hazard reduction job (see attached), but I have hung up my spikes for good. But mate its good to hear a fellow tree warrior share his perspective, i'd stand by your side in a brawl anytime. My utter regards Cass......... Hazard reduction pruning by Humphreys.....pdf __________________ Cut through life's drama - With Instinct as your steel and Logic as your temper...

27th January 2008, 10:53 PM	#85 (permalink)
Cassian Humphreys Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 61	Re: Spikes and spur help? Note - that hazard reduction job was on a Forest red gum - Eucalyptus tereticornis, done August last year) The tree had a major limb failure (summer break) due to biomechanical constraints (limb elongation, with pronounced supporting wood) and wood embrittlement due to drought stress (dehhydrated wood). 9 hour job with clean up, I shared the climbing (we did a side each) with a long time collueague Dave Gallichan (from Guernsey, ex Merrist wood tree man). The pic on header (me as climber) is the tree during the reduction - Cass.......... __________________ Cut through life's drama - With Instinct as your steel and Logic as your temper...

28th January 2008, 05:36 AM	#88 (permalink)
RDMOTT Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montgomery CO PA USA Posts: 7	Re: Spikes and spur help? i'm with Therrin on this one. That's the same exact setup I've been using for almost 10 years. All day comfort and real good on holding the gaff in one place.

28th January 2008, 05:47 AM	#89 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,282	Re: Spikes and spur help? Welcome, RDMOTT Yeah...having those two straps makes a good deal of difference over the single strap ones. Nice thick cushioning... really comfy stuff! Glad to see ya posting, keep it going mate. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

28th January 2008, 08:49 AM	#90 (permalink)
RDMOTT Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montgomery CO PA USA Posts: 7	Re: Spikes and spur help? Thanks Therrin and Newguy for the welcomes. One thing about the felt pads is in the summer I almost always climb in shorts and sawdust sticks to the felt like glue. Rubs my shins raw after a good days work.

28th January 2008, 10:15 AM	#91 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,740	Re: Spikes and spur help? you can wear shorts?i haven't worn shorts in probanley 3 years.i have to wear jeans all year long. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

28th January 2008, 02:05 PM	#92 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,282	Re: Spikes and spur help? Yeah, the sawdust sure does stick to the felt.... However, I'm always wearing my Stihl chaps, and 10" boots. Cutting while wearing shorts, not even jeans between the chain and your skin? To each his own I suppose. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703