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Old 26th August 2008, 10:51 AM   #31
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look forward to the video,but i'm still sticking with spikes,i don't like palms anyway.My brother has been working ground for me the past week or so and i talked about teaching him the ropes of climbing,he wasn't sure but after watching how bad a heavy top makes a leaning oak move he flat out said hell no.
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Thanks for the update.

Could you also tell us what happens on leans and bends ... coconut palms grow bent and tapered so interesting to hear what you'd reckon.

Yes, you should always have 2 lanyards, just choke one or use a lifeline chocked, maybe set up a retrievable DRT for decent (Cambium Saver or ART Rope Guide can do this, or even a DRT rope with biner tied off the trunk) and forget the walking down bit?
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Pics/movies will have to wait till next week. Traveling to Memphis Tennessee this weekend for my other work.

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Bump, like to hear some feedback on these expensive climbers.
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We want picsoh and a video too.
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Old 30th December 2008, 05:49 AM   #36
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Sorry for my neglecting you guys. I'm lazy and it's the holidays! BS excuses done and over.

Here's some shots of the Baumvelo's in action.
Short queen palm, the HO just wanted the old husks removed.

Set up time 5 minutes to get them on the tree, then step in and buckle the main strap across the top of your foot. Like an old style ski binding. Some adjustment is needed when the tree thins in spots but it's pretty easy to do. Standing in them is easy and moving around the tree just as easy.

There was one point (10 ft off the ground) where the tree narrowed as I was climbing down and I didn't notice. The next step down had me sliding as the palm trunk was slick. Good lesson and glad I learned it on a short tree. The cantilever pads HAVE to have weight on them. Also going to add a 2nd lanyard fully looped for safety. The single wirecore would have caught on a rough trunk, but wouldn't bite on the slick queen palm and let me slide to the ground.





I'll do a vid if I can actually get my neighbor's kid to groundie for me.
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There was one point (10 ft off the ground) where the tree narrowed as I was climbing down and I didn't notice. The next step down had me sliding as the palm trunk was slick. Good lesson and glad I learned it on a short tree. The cantilever pads HAVE to have weight on them. Also going to add a 2nd lanyard fully looped for safety. The single wirecore would have caught on a rough trunk, but wouldn't bite on the slick queen palm and let me slide to the ground.
I'd just abseil down, put in a DRT rope on retrievable high point or through the fronds (careful with this) and down you go. How easy are they to get off the tree and bring them down with you? Or I suppose you could just loosen them and slide them down the trunk as you come down.
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to get them off the tree you have to undo the little clamp then unloop the band from the tree. kind of awkward. or with the weight off them they can be lowered easily while still mounted on the tree. I hadn't thought of sliding/lowering them. Something to try next time 8).

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Looks pretty niffty.

What are the chances (pretty please) of you making a video of how you de-husk the palms to make them nice and smooth?
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I'll try next week, I have a neighbor ready for trimming. My road trips start this week for work, so I'll have a day or 2 next week to do a vid.
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awesome! that'd be great!
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looks very interesting. Thanks for the update. I definitely wondered about the whole set up.

What about wrapping your lanyard 540 degrees instead of just 180. I do this often for slick, wet alder trees, and on small diameter wood for extra control.
If you slip, the extra wrap will hold you until you get your footing.
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Good Idea, I'll try that next tree as well.
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I think that's what Ekka calls the choking or constricting lanyard. Same thing.
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I always called it a wrap.
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I still think it works better to take a rope, tie it around the tree with a running bowline, leave about two feet of slack and tie it to your d ring on the saddle. You can keep the bowline loose and flip it with your flipline but if you ever slide it bites right down on the tree. It works great...try it. It does not protect you from the falling palm heads. However unlike the constricting laynard, you can move it easily with your flip line without having to take your wraps off. I usually always use a ladder and step off it to limit spiking the tree. Nothing worse than a palm that has been torn apart from climbing year after year.
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nice! we use 2 piece platforms to climb palms. they are called lone wolf tree stands.
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The first link is to the product "Baumvelo" or Tree Bicycle.
Baumsteiggerät "Baumvelo", Typ BVS mit Stahlbändern

This link is to an article I posted a few weeks ago in another thread
How do you spikeless climb big palms?

That thread got me thinking about the different ways I could be doing my side business. (My main work is in television, I travel 35 weeks a year and have summers mostly off, this is when I do the bulk of my side work with palms)


1) Boom or Bucket truck. $$$$ and use limited to open area.
- I'm not ready to take this large a leap into my business
2) Rope climbing. $$ and unlimited access to any tree.
- Since I'm not yet trained I'd appreciate advice here. I have an appointment to go to a tree climbing school next month in Georgia to take a basic training course and an advanced course the following month. Drawback seems to be a long set up time, from shooting the weight to getting up the tree. I've seen people saying 15 minutes per tree.
3) Ladders and polesaw. $ but limited in height.
- This is how I got started on my own palms and my neighbors started paying me to trim thiers. As "hack" as it is it's worked for me for the last year or so for the jobs I've been doing. (all residential, all 40' or less)
4) The Baumvello or "Tree Bicycle". $$ with no limit to height.
- Obviously the training in climbing is still a necessity with these. I'm corresponding with Grube.de to see what the exact limitations on diameter are
but it seems to me that a quick clip into the rig and clicking into the foot climbers would lend to a very quick setup and breakdown per tree. Ekka brought up a question in the linked post about getting up into the crown, well since they can be "parked" and dismounted a shorter climb into the crown would seem to work. (though I may be talking out my butt since I'm not a climber, yet.) If I could cut 5-10 minutes off the setup and breakdown per tree it would allow for many more trees per day.


I'm asking because I see so much knowledge here and your opinions on the practicality of this piece of equipment would be greatly appreciated. The application I see for it is in doing commercial areas like local malls and other businesses with 50'+ palms.

The problems I'm seeing are these:
1) getting the contractee to want their trees cleaned of husks, which is necessary for the Baumvelo.
2) diameter of tree - I'm working on this part.
3) Cost - Actually I don't have a problem with the cost, If I think I could get more work out of them. List price is approximately $2500.00 USD.

By the way, anyone out there know of a Smilie like this but with a Palm?

Thanks again guys/gals.
the quality counts, but your safety comes first no matter what. It ifs safer to spike the palms then so so on the side no ones gona look at the most. Stay away from big skirts on the robustas, and satisfy the peramiters of the job. If you can make it look better than the last guy then do so, because that were qualitycounts. If your bidding jobs that big then you should know by now what thats all about. nice palm wraps thou. Be safe and pimp em' out.
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I still think it works better to take a rope, tie it around the tree with a running bowline, leave about two feet of slack and tie it to your d ring on the saddle. You can keep the bowline loose and flip it with your flipline but if you ever slide it bites right down on the tree. It works great...try it. It does not protect you from the falling palm heads. However unlike the constricting laynard, you can move it easily with your flip line without having to take your wraps off. I usually always use a ladder and step off it to limit spiking the tree. Nothing worse than a palm that has been torn apart from climbing year after year.
thats so true, but if your the guy doing it every year why not aim for the same holes for the first 15 feet. after that it wont make that big of difference. Just when the time to take it out comes up, don't hesitate. It be like getting a bonus after trimming it all those years.
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what kinda palms are we talking about here? i use a platform and its even faster then the rings are. check it out.

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im serious, those rings are just a pain in the azz and a waste of money. get the platforms. they are only $400
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