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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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look forward to the video,but i'm still sticking with spikes,i don't like palms anyway.My brother has been working ground for me the past week or so and i talked about teaching him the ropes of climbing,he wasn't sure but after watching how bad a heavy top makes a leaning oak move he flat out said hell no.
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Thanks for the update. Could you also tell us what happens on leans and bends ... coconut palms grow bent and tapered so interesting to hear what you'd reckon. Yes, you should always have 2 lanyards, just choke one or use a lifeline chocked, maybe set up a retrievable DRT for decent (Cambium Saver or ART Rope Guide can do this, or even a DRT rope with biner tied off the trunk) and forget the walking down bit?
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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Pics/movies will have to wait till next week. Traveling to Memphis Tennessee this weekend for my other work. SP
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Bump, like to hear some feedback on these expensive climbers.
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We want pics oh and a video too.
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| | #36 |
| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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Sorry for my neglecting you guys. I'm lazy and it's the holidays! BS excuses done and over. Here's some shots of the Baumvelo's in action. Short queen palm, the HO just wanted the old husks removed. Set up time 5 minutes to get them on the tree, then step in and buckle the main strap across the top of your foot. Like an old style ski binding. Some adjustment is needed when the tree thins in spots but it's pretty easy to do. Standing in them is easy and moving around the tree just as easy. There was one point (10 ft off the ground) where the tree narrowed as I was climbing down and I didn't notice. The next step down had me sliding as the palm trunk was slick. Good lesson and glad I learned it on a short tree. The cantilever pads HAVE to have weight on them. Also going to add a 2nd lanyard fully looped for safety. The single wirecore would have caught on a rough trunk, but wouldn't bite on the slick queen palm and let me slide to the ground. ![]() ![]() ![]() I'll do a vid if I can actually get my neighbor's kid to groundie for me.
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| | #38 |
| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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to get them off the tree you have to undo the little clamp then unloop the band from the tree. kind of awkward. or with the weight off them they can be lowered easily while still mounted on the tree. I hadn't thought of sliding/lowering them. Something to try next time 8).
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| | #39 |
| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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Looks pretty niffty. What are the chances (pretty please) of you making a video of how you de-husk the palms to make them nice and smooth? |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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I'll try next week, I have a neighbor ready for trimming. My road trips start this week for work, so I'll have a day or 2 next week to do a vid.
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| | #41 |
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awesome! that'd be great! |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olympia, WA, USA
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looks very interesting. Thanks for the update. I definitely wondered about the whole set up. What about wrapping your lanyard 540 degrees instead of just 180. I do this often for slick, wet alder trees, and on small diameter wood for extra control. If you slip, the extra wrap will hold you until you get your footing. |
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| | #43 |
| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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Good Idea, I'll try that next tree as well.
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| | #44 |
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I think that's what Ekka calls the choking or constricting lanyard. Same thing.
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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I always called it a wrap.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gainesville, fl
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I still think it works better to take a rope, tie it around the tree with a running bowline, leave about two feet of slack and tie it to your d ring on the saddle. You can keep the bowline loose and flip it with your flipline but if you ever slide it bites right down on the tree. It works great...try it. It does not protect you from the falling palm heads. However unlike the constricting laynard, you can move it easily with your flip line without having to take your wraps off. I usually always use a ladder and step off it to limit spiking the tree. Nothing worse than a palm that has been torn apart from climbing year after year.
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| | #47 |
| Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii
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nice! we use 2 piece platforms to climb palms. they are called lone wolf tree stands.
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| Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii
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what kinda palms are we talking about here? i use a platform and its even faster then the rings are. check it out.
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| | #51 |
| Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maui, hawaii
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im serious, those rings are just a pain in the azz and a waste of money. get the platforms. they are only $400
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