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| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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The axes are well used, the blades may have been replaced (they bolt into the forged head) but I suspect not. They are high quality steel and extremely tough. I don't think they could be damaged, or even wear much, in their intended use. (ice). They have heavy serrations on them and look to be good even as a hook without penetration. Once set into the tree it is trivial for each one of them to hold my full weight. Also they are set into the tree at just above eye level, so a visual inspection of the placement and penetration is much easier than with the gaffs. The butt of the handles even have spikes that are designed to dig in when the butt is in contact with the ice wall. I will set them in this manner and load test them out of my own curiosity. Of course I will share these results as they come in. As for saws, I had two 14" Poulan's new but semi-crappy and one 12" top handle saw, old and really crappy. I ended up using one of the Poulans mostly. And I have had a lot of cutting experience with saws over my 60 years. I know how dangerous they are, multiplied of course, when up a tree with you. Aerial Last edited by Aerial : 3rd April 2008 at 01:32 AM. Reason: other photo reference | |
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| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Film at 11:00... lol I should explain, it's an American slang for anything that might bring out a TV film crew - usually not good news. Aerial | |
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| | #53 (permalink) | ||
| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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From the operating manual: "The DB/SALA SP150 Self Retracting Lifeline (SRL) meets or exceeds all National Standards, including ANSI Z359.1 and all applicable local, State, and Federal (OSHA) requirements governing this equipment." I have a friend in the Ironworkers Union who has used these things for years on high steel erection projects. It was he who directed me to this great piece of gear. You guys need to get out of the woods more! ![]() Aerial Last edited by Aerial : 3rd April 2008 at 02:13 AM. Reason: added cable length & comments on soft stop capabilities | ||
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| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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| Right now I have a courier delivery to make to West Virginia (a neighboring State). Got to have a "mission critical" computer part in the hands of a technition not one minute later than 08:00 this morning. It's a milk run and I'll be back in three hours ... Keep the comments coming, they are invaluable to me. Constructive criticism is also welcomed, have a go at me, you won't hurt my feelings. Aerial Last edited by Aerial : 3rd April 2008 at 02:33 AM. Reason: spelling |
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| Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia
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It doesn't look like an overly busy street. How did they know what you were doing? What sort of traffic management/signage did you have in place for pedestrians/vehicles? ![]()
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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![]() So perhaps you need to wake up and smell the roses! ![]()
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| | #57 (permalink) | |
| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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![]() Touche and well played Sir! Is there a pdf of that somewhere? I do need to get up to speed and in-compliance instead of in-competence. Aerial | |
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| | #58 (permalink) | |
| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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We had cones blocking the sidewalk, and blocked the street in the working areas with our trucks and trailer. Plus two other men besides myself as crew. For the first drop we had two police cars, two fire engines, and later six electric company trucks to do crowd control for the neighborhood who turned out to see us finish the job after their power was restored. Now I was going to save the whole true retelling of the events of that day for a separate thread, but since you asked ... Aerial ![]() Last edited by Aerial : 3rd April 2008 at 06:58 AM. Reason: to protect the innocent and guilty alike ... | |
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| Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see.
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| A tautline hitch is every bit as safe if not safer than the retracting life line,it has been proven by thousands of climbers,as far as i know it was the first friction hitch and i still use it on removals where i only set my highline once.You should start off with that and then move on to something like a distel.You took out a telephone pole?Was it rigged or just cut off?
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| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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| When I sized up this job, I was well aware of the anchor pole shown in the prior photographs. This pole held a guy wire (insulated, no current) with a cable running down and across the street to another, much larger active power pole, (that's the one laying in the street). This pole was not even on our street, it was 70 ~ 80 meters away from us. The tree leans well out over this support cable, (already gone in the other photos) so as you can see, and I'm sure your collective experience shows as well, that this was going to be a problem, for me a very large one. I did in fact have a plan for this, just not for the way it went down. The plan was to ascend to the top of the tree to position the SRL (Self Retracting Lifeline) where you can see it in the picture. After what I sure you all would consider a foolhardy and dangerous free climb to get there, I snapped in To the SRL and felt much better. It was a scary climb, what with heavy old lineman's pole spikes and limp flipline. On the way up I dropped the easy limbs and once up there with the SRL attached, I began to cut the top limbs out in sections. They all went down without a problem of hitting the support cable. I should do a Photoshop of the image to put in diagrams so you will know exactly where I am talking about, but I'll try to describe what happened next to the best of my ability. Here's the photo: ![]() After cutting everything that you see cut, except less than a meter length off the limb to the left of the one the SRL is crotched to (the branch @ 45 degrees in the photo), I made what seemed a routine cut of a relatively short piece of the formerly over-reaching limb. (Picking it up after, it couldn't have weighed more than 10 kilos, pretty much dried out dead wood). Now the projected trajectory was well clear of the support wire and pole, having dropped the much longer branch it supported, cleanly clear of the cable just before it was cut. Not factored in was the glancing blow that the log took from the limb under it. The thing ricocheted off the branch below and cartwheeled through the air and struck the support pole like a pile driver leaving the top splintered and the cable vibrating. The utility pole at the end of the street must have quivered once and snapped of at the base. It fell away from us and across the next street. I didn't see any of this, as I was on the tree with my back to the support pole and as it short piece I cut off dropped I was more concerned with hanging on than looking around. It happened fast, though. I hear the power pole go down, even over the rattle of the chainsaw. By the time I looked, it was smoking and sparking, laying as you see it in the street. Thank God no one was driving through the intersection just then. I know you all can flay me at will over the whole process, and rightly so, but I will be introducing evidence that while not exculpatory, may be at least be mitigating over the occurrence of that pole's collapse into the street. This is a very long post, so I will introduce said evidence after the public flogging which is sure to ensue... Aerial Last edited by Aerial : 3rd April 2008 at 09:15 AM. Reason: spelling, punctuation, readability, & stuff ... |
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| Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see.
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| Don't you know how to rig?if said limb was lowred it might not have took out the pole.This is why training and knowledge of trees and how to use the proper cuts is so important.
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| Cruisin' Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lincs/Leeds England
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| revolutionary new way of killing people more like! just... wow. i think we'd better see the rest of the photos for these mitigating circumstances sooner rather than later to be honest. i cant help but think, if you regard ME as the more experienced of the two of us, what are you doing attempting takedowns? yes! thank god there was nobody in the road, but how many times before there will be!? i can think of an american site where you would get drawn over hot coals for that. I'm more interested in trying to stop you hurting yourself or others ive now come around to the thinking that the guy on youtube felling a tree in his yard with a skil saw and an extension cord as a bull rope was more careful. not being funny, and i am more than prepared to be proven wrong, but a 10 kilo chunk of wood could never do that, surely! i stand firmly in a glass house here because I know i'll make mistakes, im trained to fell trees, and im learning to climb trees, but ne'er the twain shall meet until ive been judged competant by a professional peer. Life is too precious. If i cock up and hurt myself, chalk up one more. if i hurt (i dont even want to think about worse) someone else through my negligence, i would never forgive myself. im sorry, thats just how i feel be safe one and all jim |
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| Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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![]() Exhibit B: A section of the support cable: ![]() Aerial | |
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