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| Sappling Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobart
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Hi all,Was looking at purchasing my first chipper, my business is small so I was looking at one of the cheaper and smaller capacity 6" machines from Rayco the RC6 vemeer BC600XL or Morbark Beever R 6 C drum chipper. Anyone worked with these machines before? Are they worth investing in? Cheers stu.
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney
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The 6' Bandit is a good machine
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin
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I would rather have nothing than a 6" Vermeer. The company that I used to work for had several and I hated them all. At the time, I never used a larger chipper so I didnt know what else was out there, but I still knew they were not good chippers. The units that they owned, they bought new and they were pretty much junk from day one. The dont take brush in very well. If there are any wide branch unions (like Honeylocust) you will spend more time cutting and chipping than doing actual pruning or removing. The other thing that I hated about the chippers was the difficulty of maintenance. Changing knives and adjusting the bed knife are both huge pains due to the tight quarters of the machine. I am trying to come up with one good thing to say about the 6" Vermeers but I cant think of anything right now.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia
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Do NOT buy any 6" chipper is my best advice,Buy at least a 9" or you WILL regret it. Bandits 6" with a duetz are the best of a sad sad bunch.
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| Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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I think 6 " chippers still have their place. I ran a Bandit 6 with the diesel deutz for 5 years. Majority of my work back then was pruning, so it suited well. Cheap to run too. Easy to get into tight spots. We even unhooked & pushed it into back yards when they wanted to keep mulch, saving a lot of drag time. Was definately the pick of the 6'ers around at the time, the 12" wide by 6" high infeed takes forky brush well for its size compared to most others that are 6x6. The morbark could be worth a look though, a 6" drum style chipper would be interesting. But once you go bigger you won't want to go backwards. My advice is buy a 6" because you want a 6". If it's for budget reasons, buy a 2nd hand bigger machine. |
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| Sappling Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobart
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Heh heh.. Pretty unanimous opinions there!The light weight of the 6" chippers is pretty appealing, The Morbark Beever 6 has an 11 x 6 " throat combined with light weight,single wheel infeed, but only a 27 hp Kohler. Maybe I'll start looking at a 9 inch or the Morbark 8 inch. Its just the price tag that scares me with bigger machines and the fact I'll be towing it around with a 2.8 diesel for a while. Anyone have an idea on the cost of running smaller chippers on average? Thanks for your replies.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mildura
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Stay away from the Rayco the 6 by 6 infeed is useless and they know it I got a quote for a chinese chipper a couple of years back it was only 4 k plus shipping, if I could see these machines in person so to speak I might have bought one |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia
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Shipping isnt a big issue its more cut throat than road freight,I had a 500kg excavator attachment priced to ship Korea to Melbourne $260USD cheap as chips.
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Best way to check out the different machines is to see them running! When your over here later this year see if you can get other manufacturers to give you a demo with your material. Puts the uncertainty out of your head - its a big expenditure when your buying your first chipper.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand
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| Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ballarat
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We've just opened up a completely new dealership for Vic, Tas & SA in Ballarat and have no connection to the old dealers. I honestly can't say what has happened here but I will ask the factory if they know anything - do you know what year you ordered it & where the dealer was? | |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: new zealand
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand
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It was Loadlift and thier reply was that Morbark wouldnt tell them when the machine would be delivered, but only when i chased them for months for an answer. We then found out that there were a few teething problems with them but no one was being told. Thats when we bought a Vermeer. All i can say is thank goodness for the internet. You cant hide things for long. Does anyone know how these machines (sp52 i think they are called) are going or are Morbark still working on them. |
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They are going great actually (but what would expect a salesman to say!!). Honestly I cant tell you as I've never seen one running - we are bringing a couple into stock over the next 6 months but are focusing on getting the chippers right first. Upto now we've been focused on Morbarks bigger horizontal grinders and forestry chippers. Joe |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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My Morbark 2060 D chipper with 35 HP Wisconson gas now has over 800 hrs on it and it is my first chipper. I haven't had one bit of trouble with it besides a broken infeed roller spring. This machine can chip 6 inch diameter logs all day long and only burn 4 liters of fuel an hr in average brush chipping. Morark build their machines extra heavy duty with heavier material then the average competition. I understand the president of Brush Bandit used to work for Morbark and then went on his own taking Morbark design with him, to explain the simularities in the 2 companies design. |
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| Sappling Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobart
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Do you know of anyone running the Beever M6R? Its their small 6 inch drum chipper run by a 27 hp Kohler, must be what they replaced the 2060D with. Thanks. | |
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HolmenTree - have you used any other size of Morbark? | |
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world
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-- I'm not sure if this is fact, but I heard that the owner of bandit and rayco are brothers. Rayco brother used to work with and for Bandit brother - got shit the shits and went and started his own company: Rayco.. :S --- P.S I'll be putting up a thread with pics and videos in the not so distant future.
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney
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I've never heard of a Morbark stump grinder!
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Zealand
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Probably because they forgot to supply them to their prospective customers.
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Hats off to Joe from Morbark, many manf or their reps don't comment, or threaten to sue those that do! ![]() Redroo is the other mob who comment a lot, they have Woodsman, Carlton and some of their own stuff.
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| Sappling Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brisbane
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Determine your requirements, research the equipment and the supplier, create a short list, organise a demonstration, check the facts, make a decision. It's just that simple Joe, as an aside, is Morbark - RSA affiliated with Arborlink in Brisbane as a Morbark distributor/dealer/agent? And welcome to Treeworld!
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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My 35HP Wisconson gas is a heavy duty V-4 engine which put out much more torque and inertia then the 35hp Vangaurd. A 35 hp diesel is available. The 2060D is now called the Beever M8D, almost identical to the 2060D, just 2" bigger. I quess the 2060 is still a good proven product. The Beever M6 is just for landscapers. Here is a pic of my Morbark 2060D chipper/ stump grinder/ side dump trailer unit that I built. | |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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No I haven't used a bigger chipper, but as you see in my above photo the 2060 unit is all I need. Just last week I finished a 5 acre land clearing contract, stumps and all with my unit and 3 hired hands. All piled wood and chips stayed on site. But where my setup shines is in residential tree and stump removal. Low impact and I can get into tight spaces and traffic. | |
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world
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Bandit build those big 1,000hp machines heck even Rayco does, but I'm talking about power to weight ratio while being legal to tow. While being affordable without having to do massive land clearing everyday just to pay it off. As well as making statements like they use more steel in construction then their avg. competitor. Heck did you know their, biggest tow behind at 325horsies only comes in at 6 and a half tonnes? Hmmm, sorry if it seems I'm attacking you, I'm not, just trying to put my point across.
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Take a look yourself at all the Morbark chippers if you get the chance and you will see their heavy duty construction. Over here in Canada we have lots to choose from. Correction on my chipper's infeed throat, its 13" wide not 12". The Bandit 6" chipper is the same also. Last edited by Willard Holmen; 26th July 2009 at 03:23 AM. | |
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| Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ballarat
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Thanks for the welcome! | |
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