Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint

Therrin · 30th December 2007, 02:22 AM

I was thinking about using one of these for blocking down some pines... Are there any reasons it shouldn't be used for that? Looks like it'd be good for it. Has anyone used these?

Ekka · 30th December 2007, 02:59 AM

What exactly is that for and how do you want to use it?

quercus · 30th December 2007, 10:40 AM

I think it's designed as a TIP for really smooth stems. The ratchet makes it possible to really tighten it so it can't slide down in the event of a fall. I have other reliable systems for achieving this, and I like to think of the fact that if it slides a little bit before gripping the wood, it actually works as a dynamic fall arrestor. If you would use a cambium saver and wrap it around the stem twice it would work just as well and would be still retrievable from the ground.
it could also be a device to be strapped onto the block your about to throw off so the block can't slide out of the lowering line.That type of use would be better I guess, but I'm seriously doubting that the ratchet will last long after it has been sqeezed a few times between stem and block when it falls down.

shaggs · 30th December 2007, 01:16 PM

Never seen one before (another tick for this forum!)

Looks a good idea but I wonder if it would take longer than woopie's, slings etc?

Is it made for lowering??? Looks like the ring could be a little more heavy duty if that was the case.

Ekka · 30th December 2007, 01:55 PM

Apparently it's to be ratcheted onto the boom of an EWP for escape/rescue. Suitable as anchorage point.

But I have cambium savers and a rope guide which is what I'd be using for lifeline.

However for rigging you'd cow hitch a pulley to the stem.

For tying the section, well, I got endless loops you could prussik with half hitch, or just tie it with half hitch and twice round running bowline.

bigshea13 · 30th December 2007, 02:09 PM

some older snorkel lifts or sissor lifts{ probably not the type associated with tree work} were manufactured without tie off points on them. osha regulations require that workers tie off to an approved point of attachment when operating them. that looks like such a setup to satisfy such requirements.

might work well on smaller pine chunks but it may bind up under larger loads

newguy18 · 30th December 2007, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

I was thinking about using one of these for blocking down some pines... Are there any reasons it shouldn't be used for that? Looks like it'd be good for it. Has anyone used these?

i might be good for your life line but at only 5,000 lbs tensile I don't know about useing it for rigging because the possibilty of shock loading always exists.

Therrin · 30th December 2007, 06:07 PM

I was thinking of using it as a rigging anchor for 24" and smaller diameter pines, just for dismantles mostly. Wasn't sure if it'd be quicker than what I'm using now or not. It just looked kinda handy.... I thought it'd be nice if it were a bit beefier.

Prolly not a good idea afterall. Thanks for the opinions though.

I thought maybe using one of those, or making one would be nice because it would be one piece of equipment that could size it self accordingly and replace a couple others. <shrugs> t'was just a thought.

shaggs · 1st January 2008, 12:36 AM

Not a bad idea though.
Just neew something a bit more heavy duty!

newguy18 · 1st January 2008, 09:18 PM

Hmmmm I wonder maybe throw in a 1/2" quick link or screwlock biner and a new anchor point for a portawrap or figure eight.Maybe a line redirect for a pull line while felling.

George Hayduke · 11th February 2008, 11:29 PM

Why not go to the source?

Ask the Bucky Boys if they think that should be used for a lowering anchor.

You gotta be kidding!

There are many other acceptable anchor points available.

Therrin · 12th February 2008, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Prolly not a good idea afterall. Thanks for the opinions though.

I thought maybe using one of those, or making one would be nice because it would be one piece of equipment that could size it self accordingly and replace a couple others. <shrugs> t'was just a thought.

Mmmm....already came to that conclusion George. Doesn't really matter what their opinion is, there *are* better things out there, as I mentioned, it was just an idea for specifically rigging down pines where that diameter came into play. Thanks for bothering to just say something though.

30th December 2007, 02:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,270	Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint I was thinking about using one of these for blocking down some pines... Are there any reasons it shouldn't be used for that? Looks like it'd be good for it. Has anyone used these? __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

30th December 2007, 02:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint What exactly is that for and how do you want to use it? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th December 2007, 10:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 428	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint I think it's designed as a TIP for really smooth stems. The ratchet makes it possible to really tighten it so it can't slide down in the event of a fall. I have other reliable systems for achieving this, and I like to think of the fact that if it slides a little bit before gripping the wood, it actually works as a dynamic fall arrestor. If you would use a cambium saver and wrap it around the stem twice it would work just as well and would be still retrievable from the ground. it could also be a device to be strapped onto the block your about to throw off so the block can't slide out of the lowering line.That type of use would be better I guess, but I'm seriously doubting that the ratchet will last long after it has been sqeezed a few times between stem and block when it falls down.

30th December 2007, 01:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint Never seen one before (another tick for this forum!) Looks a good idea but I wonder if it would take longer than woopie's, slings etc? Is it made for lowering??? Looks like the ring could be a little more heavy duty if that was the case.

30th December 2007, 01:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint Apparently it's to be ratcheted onto the boom of an EWP for escape/rescue. Suitable as anchorage point. But I have cambium savers and a rope guide which is what I'd be using for lifeline. However for rigging you'd cow hitch a pulley to the stem. For tying the section, well, I got endless loops you could prussik with half hitch, or just tie it with half hitch and twice round running bowline. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th December 2007, 02:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigshea13 Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 378	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint some older snorkel lifts or sissor lifts{ probably not the type associated with tree work} were manufactured without tie off points on them. osha regulations require that workers tie off to an approved point of attachment when operating them. that looks like such a setup to satisfy such requirements. might work well on smaller pine chunks but it may bind up under larger loads

30th December 2007, 06:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,270	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint I was thinking of using it as a rigging anchor for 24" and smaller diameter pines, just for dismantles mostly. Wasn't sure if it'd be quicker than what I'm using now or not. It just looked kinda handy.... I thought it'd be nice if it were a bit beefier. Prolly not a good idea afterall. Thanks for the opinions though. I thought maybe using one of those, or making one would be nice because it would be one piece of equipment that could size it self accordingly and replace a couple others. <shrugs> t'was just a thought. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

1st January 2008, 12:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint Not a bad idea though. Just neew something a bit more heavy duty!

1st January 2008, 09:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,646	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint Hmmmm I wonder maybe throw in a 1/2" quick link or screwlock biner and a new anchor point for a portawrap or figure eight.Maybe a line redirect for a pull line while felling. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

11th February 2008, 11:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	Re: Buckingham Ratchet Anchorpoint Why not go to the source? Ask the Bucky Boys if they think that should be used for a lowering anchor. You gotta be kidding! There are many other acceptable anchor points available.

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