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Old 25th May 2009, 10:44 PM   #1
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Default What are the Australian's cabling trees with?

Seriously, what are you guys out there using, costs, links etc.

I have a few cabling jobs coming up and frankly I'm going to buy from overseas as the options around this town are very limited.

I'm talking dynamic, low stretch, non invasive.

So lets see, what do you use and why.
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Old 25th May 2009, 10:52 PM   #2
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Ehhhhmmm, I'll call ya in the morning ekka

We had a party for the new bub on sunday and i forgot!
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Old 25th May 2009, 11:03 PM   #3
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I was looking at this .....

Tree Guard Noninvasive Dynamic Cabling

However the splicing aloft does seem to suck frankly.
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Old 28th May 2009, 08:34 PM   #4
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Yale Brace .Easier to install and less expensive than cobra.
Been using it for a while now.
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Old 28th May 2009, 08:43 PM   #5
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Sorry Ekka, i didnt read your last post. That stuff your looking at seems similar to Yale Brace except you dont need the slings. It is really simple to splice aloft , heaps easier than Cobra.
Sorry it sounds like an add but its not it is just .....heaps easier..
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Old 28th May 2009, 10:29 PM   #6
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We ran into a strange complication with Cobra cables along coastal Maine when squirrels started chewing into the cable weave. It appears they were trying to get the salt which was left behind from the 'salt-fogs' we have coming in off the ocean.. I assume this could be a problem along any ocean coastal location and it might be a consideration regarding the cable-type used... We also found the squirrels chewing bark off some limbs for the same reason.
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Old 28th May 2009, 10:48 PM   #7
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We dont have squirrels in Australia, but thanks for making us thing about fauna that could eat it.

Possums might I suppose, maybe rats too??????
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Old 29th May 2009, 10:13 PM   #8
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I've installed several hundred meters of Cobra and about 100m of Yale Brace. Also a few steel systems, though mostly i only use steel for occaisional rod bracing.

While Yale is cheap & simple, you do also need to buy a $120 fid first up, not a big deal though, & still cheaper than same amount of cobra.

Also Yale rope goes directly around the trunk, so abraision can be a problem over time. Another problem is Yale is a locked splice, so it will choke the stem as girth expands over time...Not good for the tree.

Another issue I have is their seems to be no reference material availble for this product relating to its use as tree bracing. It seems to me more like someone discovered a rope that can kinda be used a bit like cobra but is cheap, and decided to market it as tree bracing, without any trials, testing, or data. I could be wrong, but i've tried hard to find out about it and got nowhere. If someone can point me to this info, please do.

Yes, if i charge the same for the cabling job regardless of material, i will make more profit out of installing Yale. But i dont feel it is at all fair to do that. I know that if you actually showed a prospective client made up samples of Yale & Cobra side by side, and explained how each system works, the Cobra will come out favourable. Then the Arborist can advise which is best suited to that unique application. Then the customer can decide which they see better value in.

Cabling with Yale should be the "cheap" option, because it is.

Tree-Guard looks like a good improvent on the Yale Brace though, with a choice of elongation %, and using slings around the stems.

Cobra's self adjustment to stem girth expansion is a big plus for me.

Personally, I'd use cobra again, I'd try Tree-Guard, but i won't buy another reel of Yale Brace.
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All steel.
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