Types of Biners you use.

arbdog · 20th January 2008, 05:01 AM

Thats what i do wd40 them, when you buy them the care tag states graphite spray not oils. but they get the wdanyway, as even the arb shops say they struggle to get graphite spray.

Therrin · 20th January 2008, 05:04 AM

I'd probably be able to send ya some silicone or graphite spray if it weren't an aerosol. Don't rightly know how that all works with shipping.

However, yeah, WD-40 does work, but like I mentioned, it'll gum up a bit in temps around or below freezing.

arbdog · 20th January 2008, 06:35 AM

will keep that in mind. cheers

newguy18 · 20th January 2008, 06:46 AM

I used to use graphite spray when i did small engine repair for lubing the cables in weedeater shafts but found that white liteoum is better.it is avalibale in spray form at any wal mart.

Therrin · 20th January 2008, 04:06 PM

Newguy,

It might behoove you at times to use some sort of spellcheck function.... Or at least to read over an review your post before you submit it. Especially when the stuff that you're talking about is what's misspelled.

What's liteoum? (and keep in mind, the guys across the pond don't have walmart)

newguy18 · 20th January 2008, 06:07 PM

excuse me litheoum.

Therrin · 20th January 2008, 06:20 PM

lithium?

newguy18 · 20th January 2008, 09:30 PM

I dropped out in 8th grade don't hold it against me.

arbdog · 21st January 2008, 03:07 PM

My spelling isnt too hot after a few beers!

arborjockey · 22nd January 2008, 10:02 AM

Spelling? Computers? Not to hot with either. I downloaded the "I spell" but everytime I hit it it wants me to download it again. I checked in my programs and its not in there either. Anyone help me????

arbdog · 25th January 2008, 02:47 AM

dont know tons about p.cs myself, but back to biners I was coming down a ivy incrustrusted Field maple yesterday and my grilon biner got stuck and like a fool who pulled it! I thought i would never wack myself in the face with one again but i proved myself wrong!

ronnyb · 25th January 2008, 06:00 PM

I like the Petzl William ball locks. Easy to operate with heavy gloves on in winter. Powdered graphite is really common, you can find it in any hardware store. That's what we use, it doesn't attract more dirt or thicken up like wd40 does.

Tree Machine · 30th January 2008, 06:43 PM

I thought i would never wack myself in the face with one again but i proved myself wrong![/quote]Owwwwwww!

I use all kinds, screwlockers, auto lockers, non-lockers, aluminum and steel, keylock gates, wire gates. I love em all. They go great with eye terminations. Muy efficient-o.

Therrin · 30th January 2008, 07:24 PM

Mmmm, wire-gates. Loved them when climbing. Nice and light weight.

There was some promotional material given out at a seminar I went to, I'll see if I can find it. Mentioned how alot of aluminum wire-gate biners will start to deform at breaking load and strrrrretch before they break.
Supposedly, this can give you a couple precious seconds to do something about it as long as you see it happening.

Funny thing is... I climbed for so many years, and all we ever clipped with was non-locking biners. Especially when aiding. Considering weight and price, it can really add up on a full rack. It was even "the thing to do". Had screw-lock gates as well, just not nearly as many. I think it's strange that you can climb as a pro and not even have any form of locking gate, at heights higher than trees are capable of even growing, but in the Arb industry, if it's not an "autolocking" biner, it isn't good enough.

Do you climb Tree Machine? I haven't heard many other Arbo's mention wire-gates, except the rock climbers.

Sean Freeman · 30th January 2008, 09:53 PM

Oh don't get him started....

.....Jim's a gear junkey from way back, and a rock gecko too!!

Therrin · 30th January 2008, 09:57 PM

woohoo! Glad to hear it!

Ekka · 30th January 2008, 10:01 PM

Maybe rock climbers are expendable.

View Poll Results: What types of carabiners do you use for climbing and rigging, you are allowed 2 votes
Climb with auto locking biner	55	75.34%
Climb with screw gate biner	7	9.59%
Climb with either, doesn't matter to me	11	15.07%
Rig with auto locking biner	16	21.92%
Rig with screw gate biner	22	30.14%
Rig with either, doesn't matter to me	22	30.14%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

20th January 2008, 05:01 AM	#26 (permalink)
arbdog Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 97	Re: Types of Biners you use. Thats what i do wd40 them, when you buy them the care tag states graphite spray not oils. but they get the wdanyway, as even the arb shops say they struggle to get graphite spray.

20th January 2008, 05:04 AM	#27 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: Types of Biners you use. I'd probably be able to send ya some silicone or graphite spray if it weren't an aerosol. Don't rightly know how that all works with shipping. However, yeah, WD-40 does work, but like I mentioned, it'll gum up a bit in temps around or below freezing. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703 Last edited by Therrin : 20th January 2008 at 06:38 AM.

20th January 2008, 06:35 AM	#28 (permalink)
arbdog Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 97	Re: Types of Biners you use. will keep that in mind. cheers

20th January 2008, 06:46 AM	#29 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: Types of Biners you use. I used to use graphite spray when i did small engine repair for lubing the cables in weedeater shafts but found that white liteoum is better.it is avalibale in spray form at any wal mart. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

20th January 2008, 04:06 PM	#30 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: Types of Biners you use. Newguy, It might behoove you at times to use some sort of spellcheck function.... Or at least to read over an review your post before you submit it. Especially when the stuff that you're talking about is what's misspelled. What's liteoum? (and keep in mind, the guys across the pond don't have walmart) __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

20th January 2008, 06:07 PM	#31 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: Types of Biners you use. excuse me litheoum. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

20th January 2008, 06:20 PM	#32 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: Types of Biners you use. lithium? __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

20th January 2008, 09:30 PM	#33 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: Types of Biners you use. I dropped out in 8th grade don't hold it against me. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

21st January 2008, 03:07 PM	#34 (permalink)
arbdog Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 97	Re: Types of Biners you use. My spelling isnt too hot after a few beers!

22nd January 2008, 10:02 AM	#35 (permalink)
arborjockey Fly'n Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 118	Re: Types of Biners you use. Spelling? Computers? Not to hot with either. I downloaded the "I spell" but everytime I hit it it wants me to download it again. I checked in my programs and its not in there either. Anyone help me????

25th January 2008, 02:47 AM	#36 (permalink)
arbdog Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 97	Re: Types of Biners you use. dont know tons about p.cs myself, but back to biners I was coming down a ivy incrustrusted Field maple yesterday and my grilon biner got stuck and like a fool who pulled it! I thought i would never wack myself in the face with one again but i proved myself wrong! Last edited by arbdog : 25th January 2008 at 04:38 AM. Reason: spelling

25th January 2008, 06:00 PM	#37 (permalink)
ronnyb Cruisin' Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 62	Re: Types of Biners you use. I like the Petzl William ball locks. Easy to operate with heavy gloves on in winter. Powdered graphite is really common, you can find it in any hardware store. That's what we use, it doesn't attract more dirt or thicken up like wd40 does.

30th January 2008, 07:24 PM	#39 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: Types of Biners you use. Mmmm, wire-gates. Loved them when climbing. Nice and light weight. There was some promotional material given out at a seminar I went to, I'll see if I can find it. Mentioned how alot of aluminum wire-gate biners will start to deform at breaking load and strrrrretch before they break. Supposedly, this can give you a couple precious seconds to do something about it as long as you see it happening. Funny thing is... I climbed for so many years, and all we ever clipped with was non-locking biners. Especially when aiding. Considering weight and price, it can really add up on a full rack. It was even "the thing to do". Had screw-lock gates as well, just not nearly as many. I think it's strange that you can climb as a pro and not even have any form of locking gate, at heights higher than trees are capable of even growing, but in the Arb industry, if it's not an "autolocking" biner, it isn't good enough. Do you climb Tree Machine? I haven't heard many other Arbo's mention wire-gates, except the rock climbers. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

30th January 2008, 09:53 PM	#40 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: Types of Biners you use. Oh don't get him started.........Jim's a gear junkey from way back, and a rock gecko too!! __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

30th January 2008, 09:57 PM	#41 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: Types of Biners you use. woohoo! Glad to hear it! __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

30th January 2008, 10:01 PM	#42 (permalink)
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