time for Climbing line

Col2y · 27th March 2008, 03:59 PM

so today one of the groundsman where i work decided to go nuts with the saw when he was limbing up some stuff i dropped andhe nicked my climbing line, right in the middle of my 200 ft longline of course

sparing you the details and the obsenaties i shouted at him from the tree, im in need of a new climbing line right now im using XTC fire line made by yale, its a 1/2" 13mm kern mantle,

ive been doing some looking around and i really dont see much difference in alot of the lines ive been looking at so perhaps you could help me out, what are the advantages and disadvantiges of the different styles, double braid, kern mantle, solid, 13 mm 11mm

i hear good things of the true blue and was thinking of taking it for a spin, any feed back would be great,

thanks

Col2y · 27th March 2008, 03:59 PM

pardon the spelling this was writen in a hurry

Ekka · 27th March 2008, 11:55 PM

I dont wear gloves and like a 13mm softer rope, like Sampson or New England Blue Vee.

But it does get heavy however it doesn't get stuck in palm heads much either.

johnski · 28th March 2008, 08:58 AM

he bad news bout te rope. i used to use 13mm just go onto blaze an like its lighter but a bit harder to grip gloves help tho. hope ou find something.

Col2y · 28th March 2008, 09:29 AM

i have to agree with you on that ekka, and ill have to take your word on the palm, not to many of them outdoors in ontario, but 13 mm rope is alot easier to grab, i find i cant get a pair of gloves that i can grab onto the rope with and that will last longer then a week, so i have a tendency not to wear the unless im using a big saw, or if im working in the winter but i still take them off alot.

i didnt mention this before but this is a DDRT rope im looking for, not really big on the SRT yet

Sean Freeman · 28th March 2008, 04:35 PM

Like Eric I don't use gloves, have climbed on Blue and Gold Streak and XTC fire, really like them both...was lucky enough to be alloweed to mess around with an 11m line down in Geelong, even just playing found it hard to grip and suspect my hands would cramp if i used this diameter for work.

rich · 29th March 2008, 07:56 AM

Hi Col. 2x 1ooft lines then eh! My xtc is showing signs of wear after 18mths and was going to go back to Marlow gecko as can't grip xtc with gloves either. They are good price at £80.00 with free rope bag. Would be nice to be able to test ropes out first at supliers! It being such crucial/personal part of equip'. U.K. weather update...torrential rain and hail stones right now. Spring has sprung!

jim1nz · 29th March 2008, 11:16 AM

I must have climbed on just about every arborist climbing line out there but that dot mea s**t because it all personal prefrence. We ca give you our opinions and may be some direction but you really need to get a hold of some different ropes and try them with your own set up.

Ok

24 strand

Advantages:
Light weight
Very smooth rope on prussic feel
Good for self tailing hitches
Not generally as stretchy as 16 strand
Good with mechanical devices

Disadvantages:
Possibly harder to grip*
Harder on your hands*
Chews prussic slightly quicker
IMO harder to splice
Some different brands bunch slightly when new

16 strand

Advantages:
Easy to grip due to larger diameter
Good for larger diameter prussics and 3 strand prussics

Disadvantages:
Heavy
Bulky knots
Fluffs up excessivly when used
Like a spunge when wet

If your a big bloke stick with the 13.5 16 strand, samson is easier to grip than fire i think.

The softest 24 strand is blaze, it runs real well and reacts well with all prussics.

Best of luck mate

newguy18 · 29th March 2008, 12:02 PM

Hey Jim hows velocity work if you've tried it?

jim1nz · 29th March 2008, 12:45 PM

Yea im actually climbing on it at the moment mate.

Its very good but not my favorite. Its very light, very very smooth and fast through the tree. Its best with softer prussics <10mm diameter.

Excellent as an access line! For footlocking especially.

Velocity used to come with a sticky coating that everyone hated thus putting many people off the rope but now they have it sorted out.

The rope feels quite hard and its tough on ya hands especially if your a big fulla. I dont wear gloves when i can help if but if you do wear gloves its great.

Chews prussics a bit but not too bad.

Not too much stretch, it feels like its around 5% but i dont know what the specs say. Velocity does not bunch at all.

Hope this helps! Cheers mate.

newguy18 · 29th March 2008, 05:10 PM

it does,i'm thinking that might be my next line since before i got this 1/2 rope from treevet i was on 7/16.

DBS · 31st March 2008, 06:56 AM

7/16" from lowes...

get your mail?

-Daryl

newguy18 · 31st March 2008, 09:10 AM

yep busted,not yet.I'll pm you when it hits the door.

27th March 2008, 03:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Col2y Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ontario Posts: 13	time for Climbing line so today one of the groundsman where i work decided to go nuts with the saw when he was limbing up some stuff i dropped andhe nicked my climbing line, right in the middle of my 200 ft longline of course sparing you the details and the obsenaties i shouted at him from the tree, im in need of a new climbing line right now im using XTC fire line made by yale, its a 1/2" 13mm kern mantle, ive been doing some looking around and i really dont see much difference in alot of the lines ive been looking at so perhaps you could help me out, what are the advantages and disadvantiges of the different styles, double braid, kern mantle, solid, 13 mm 11mm i hear good things of the true blue and was thinking of taking it for a spin, any feed back would be great, thanks

27th March 2008, 03:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Col2y Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ontario Posts: 13	Re: time for Climbing line pardon the spelling this was writen in a hurry

27th March 2008, 11:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,664	Re: time for Climbing line I dont wear gloves and like a 13mm softer rope, like Sampson or New England Blue Vee. But it does get heavy however it doesn't get stuck in palm heads much either. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

28th March 2008, 08:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
johnski Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: uk Posts: 3	Re: time for Climbing line he bad news bout te rope. i used to use 13mm just go onto blaze an like its lighter but a bit harder to grip gloves help tho. hope ou find something.

28th March 2008, 09:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
Col2y Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ontario Posts: 13	Re: time for Climbing line i have to agree with you on that ekka, and ill have to take your word on the palm, not to many of them outdoors in ontario, but 13 mm rope is alot easier to grab, i find i cant get a pair of gloves that i can grab onto the rope with and that will last longer then a week, so i have a tendency not to wear the unless im using a big saw, or if im working in the winter but i still take them off alot. i didnt mention this before but this is a DDRT rope im looking for, not really big on the SRT yet

28th March 2008, 04:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: time for Climbing line Like Eric I don't use gloves, have climbed on Blue and Gold Streak and XTC fire, really like them both...was lucky enough to be alloweed to mess around with an 11m line down in Geelong, even just playing found it hard to grip and suspect my hands would cramp if i used this diameter for work. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

29th March 2008, 07:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
rich Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: chester Posts: 10	Re: time for Climbing line Hi Col. 2x 1ooft lines then eh! My xtc is showing signs of wear after 18mths and was going to go back to Marlow gecko as can't grip xtc with gloves either. They are good price at £80.00 with free rope bag. Would be nice to be able to test ropes out first at supliers! It being such crucial/personal part of equip'. U.K. weather update...torrential rain and hail stones right now. Spring has sprung!

29th March 2008, 11:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: time for Climbing line I must have climbed on just about every arborist climbing line out there but that dot mea s*t because it all personal prefrence. We ca give you our opinions and may be some direction but you really need to get a hold of some different ropes and try them with your own set up. Ok 24 strand Advantages: Light weight Very smooth rope on prussic feel Good for self tailing hitches Not generally as stretchy as 16 strand Good with mechanical devices Disadvantages: Possibly harder to grip Harder on your hands* Chews prussic slightly quicker IMO harder to splice Some different brands bunch slightly when new 16 strand Advantages: Easy to grip due to larger diameter Good for larger diameter prussics and 3 strand prussics Disadvantages: Heavy Bulky knots Fluffs up excessivly when used Like a spunge when wet If your a big bloke stick with the 13.5 16 strand, samson is easier to grip than fire i think. The softest 24 strand is blaze, it runs real well and reacts well with all prussics. Best of luck mate __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

29th March 2008, 12:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: time for Climbing line Hey Jim hows velocity work if you've tried it? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

29th March 2008, 12:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: time for Climbing line Yea im actually climbing on it at the moment mate. Its very good but not my favorite. Its very light, very very smooth and fast through the tree. Its best with softer prussics <10mm diameter. Excellent as an access line! For footlocking especially. Velocity used to come with a sticky coating that everyone hated thus putting many people off the rope but now they have it sorted out. The rope feels quite hard and its tough on ya hands especially if your a big fulla. I dont wear gloves when i can help if but if you do wear gloves its great. Chews prussics a bit but not too bad. Not too much stretch, it feels like its around 5% but i dont know what the specs say. Velocity does not bunch at all. Hope this helps! Cheers mate. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

29th March 2008, 05:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: time for Climbing line it does,i'm thinking that might be my next line since before i got this 1/2 rope from treevet i was on 7/16. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

31st March 2008, 06:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: time for Climbing line 7/16" from lowes... get your mail? -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

31st March 2008, 09:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: time for Climbing line yep busted,not yet.I'll pm you when it hits the door. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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