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Old 8th May 2011, 12:10 AM   #1
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Hi everyone. I am new to forum/tree climbing in general. I have gotten into climbing basically to clean and prune very large sycamores that are on my property and overhang my house with widow makers small dead limbs etc. I'm a total novice. Thus far I have made several (10) climbs into the big trees with my Petzl tree climbing SRT kit and some additional hardware and a yates chest harness (please dont make fun of me for buying a kit, im new at this) I have performed my small limbing and dead branch removal then descended. Im tying off using a running bowline. Heres my question: I get a little sketchy limb walking way out on these big branches when the vector of my climb line is to a crotch near the tree trunk. Id like to bring a second line into canopy to recrotch and free myself of some of the ascender hardware etc while out on limbs so i could just be hooked in with like a prussik and a figure 8. I am reluctant to recrotch my one climbing line because i like the idea of being able to set the new line while still connected to the climb line I set from the ground. is this a bad technique? I was thinking of something like a slightly shorter dynamic line (recommendations welcome please) so it would be better fall protection than my static 11mm dragonfly line? The 10" diameter live limbs over hang my roof a bunch so I could get the line pretty well directly overhead of where I would need to be working with a 13" handsaw. I am not doing any chainsaw work or large limb removal. Maybe there is something major I have overlooked here so I am hoping you might have some input. Thank you so much for your consideration, I hope this is not a redundant post I apologize in advance if it is.
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Old 8th May 2011, 03:10 PM   #2
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Default Re: SRT canopy work

it is verry common to use a long lanyard while SRTing. on large spreading trees i often use redirects and a long lanyard. set the re direct on a branch near where your working and then lanyard in. using a long lanyard with a hitch rather then a mechanical adjuster allows you to use it as a second climb line with out all the excess tail. although sometimes excess tail aint such a bad thing.
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Old 9th May 2011, 09:05 AM   #3
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Yeah, all you need is to re-direct. Either by using a sling with biner, or a natural re-direct by dropping down through a fork higher up above the area you want to work.

Here is a pic example of a willow pruned SRT using natural re-directs.

Red dots indicate the rope path, blue dots the pruning targets.
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Old 9th May 2011, 09:18 AM   #4
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I get a little sketchy limb walking way out on these big branches when the vector of my climb line is to a crotch near the tree trunk. Id like to bring a second line into canopy to recrotch and free myself of some of the ascender hardware etc while out on limbs so i could just be hooked in with like a prussik and a figure 8. I am reluctant to recrotch my one climbing line because i like the idea of being able to set the new line while still connected to the climb line I set from the ground. is this a bad technique? I was thinking of something like a slightly shorter dynamic line (recommendations welcome please) so it would be better fall protection than my static 11mm dragonfly line? The 10" diameter live limbs over hang my roof a bunch so I could get the line pretty well directly overhead of where I would need to be working with a 13" handsaw.
Do not forget that you can also use the tail of the SRT line.

You could throw a bunch of rope over a limb etc above, tie off to your harness and have a prussic. So in effect one one side you'd have your SRT and on the other a retrievable DRT, all you need to carry is a prussic loop and biner.

Sometime to reach that bunch of rope you can use a sidekick or pole with a hook etc.
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Old 9th May 2011, 12:09 PM   #5
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thank you all so much for your replies I greatly appreciate your insight. I like the idea of simplicity carrying less up with me.

1) if i'm picturing this correctly would a slack tender micro pulley be helpful if i were to use the "retrievable DRT" setup on the tail end of the primary SRT line? would this facilitate walking back in?
2) any tricks/whats the best way to set a sling with a biner for a redirect if the branch is well overhead? Toss it with a small line tied to it? Do I have to climb above, set it, then go back down?

Again I apologize in advance if these are dumb questions, still learning. Thank you again for your consideration and expertise.
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Old 27th June 2011, 10:44 PM   #6
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hey mate, i highly recommend buying 'the tree climbers companion' by jeff jepson. its only about $35 and will tell u absolutely everything u need to know. It'll save u asking all these questions and waiting ages for a reply, i bought it when i first started climbing and found it very very useful. You can buy it at wesspur.com, they have heaps of good books and equipment there too.
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