splicing XTC fire line

Col2y · 6th April 2008, 03:33 PM

does anyone have a walk through on how to do this, as i mentioned earlier i have a fire line thats been cut in half, so i was thinking of making something out of it, be it a flip line or a sling

but in order to do so i need to know how to splice it

thanks

quercus · 7th April 2008, 01:50 AM

there are splicing instructions on yale's website for that. I've made splices before, but I'm not very good at it. The only thing I splice is rigging line and cobra bracing...but it takes long and like I said, I'm not very good at it.

Harrie · 8th April 2008, 06:14 AM

Here are some splicing instructions of different ropes.

Samson

jim1nz · 8th April 2008, 10:40 AM

Yale instructions are what im told by splicing legends are the best.

jtrouse · 8th April 2008, 10:46 AM

jim you wanna use samsons instructions for that, there the ones ive been using it is quite easy to perform. soak the rope in washing powder for a day to get ride of all the muck and sap otherwise youve got oe hope of splcing it up.

the finl taper is done by marking back where they exit between c and d and pulling on both the core and cover to expose more length cut where you marked them and then starting at where you just cut them make a cut every inch for 5 inches so you finish with 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 where you cut at the exit point.

Good luck

jim1nz · 8th April 2008, 10:58 AM

jtrouse, why use Samson instructions out of interest?

Its a Yale rope...

16 strand yale ropes seem easier to splice than samson, not that has anything to do with this ha.

col2y, if you dont already know how to splice do NOT start with a used rope, new rope is far far easier.

jtrouse · 8th April 2008, 11:18 AM

well the yale instructions dont turn up as neat as the samsons ones, if you can find the yale ones your welcome to use them but id say use samsons much clearer and every 16strand rope can be done with these instructions.

newguy18 · 8th April 2008, 04:08 PM

Are fids absolutley nessacary?If so i've been doing a big no no using a matress needle for splicing.

jtrouse · 8th April 2008, 04:13 PM

the highest gauge piano wire you can get is the best for a fid for splicing cause its much easier to pull the rope rather than push it especially in 16 strand.

newguy18 · 8th April 2008, 04:16 PM

So it makes the over under process easier because its flexible?

jtrouse · 8th April 2008, 05:05 PM

thats it, very easier after doing few, the final taper takes practice through.

newguy18 · 8th April 2008, 05:11 PM

We must do differnt splicing techniques,my pattern for every rope is seperate the strands,go over one and under the next until they're snugged up and tight then cut s the remaining strand with a hot knife.

jtrouse · 8th April 2008, 05:58 PM

thats 3 strand or 12 strand splicing 16 strand is buried inside itself

newguy18 · 9th April 2008, 06:55 AM

let me make sure i understand the instructions right,you only tuck each strand once and the pull it out the end?Just asking never done 16 strand before and i'm half tempted to try it.

jim1nz · 9th April 2008, 02:31 PM

New Guy, check out one of the splicing sites, its the only way to remotely understand 16 strand or double braid splices apart from someone actually showing you.

3 strand has nothing on 16 strand or double braid splices in terms of difficulty.

newguy18 · 9th April 2008, 03:03 PM

I saw the one posted Jim,just trying to make sure i understand it correctly.

6th April 2008, 03:33 PM	#1
Col2y Sappling Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ontario Posts: 40	splicing XTC fire line does anyone have a walk through on how to do this, as i mentioned earlier i have a fire line thats been cut in half, so i was thinking of making something out of it, be it a flip line or a sling but in order to do so i need to know how to splice it thanks

7th April 2008, 01:50 AM	#2
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 368	Re: splicing XTC fire line there are splicing instructions on yale's website for that. I've made splices before, but I'm not very good at it. The only thing I splice is rigging line and cobra bracing...but it takes long and like I said, I'm not very good at it.

8th April 2008, 06:14 AM	#3
Harrie Sappling Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Netherlands, Eindhoven Posts: 25	Re: splicing XTC fire line Here are some splicing instructions of different ropes. Samson

8th April 2008, 10:40 AM	#4
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: splicing XTC fire line Yale instructions are what im told by splicing legends are the best. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

8th April 2008, 10:46 AM	#5
jtrouse Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 63	Re: splicing XTC fire line jim you wanna use samsons instructions for that, there the ones ive been using it is quite easy to perform. soak the rope in washing powder for a day to get ride of all the muck and sap otherwise youve got oe hope of splcing it up. the finl taper is done by marking back where they exit between c and d and pulling on both the core and cover to expose more length cut where you marked them and then starting at where you just cut them make a cut every inch for 5 inches so you finish with 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 where you cut at the exit point. Good luck __________________ Regards Jim http://www.arborclimb.com.au CONTRACT CLIMBER CERT IV HORT(ARB) NMIT CERT III HORT (NMIT)

8th April 2008, 10:58 AM	#6
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: splicing XTC fire line jtrouse, why use Samson instructions out of interest? Its a Yale rope... 16 strand yale ropes seem easier to splice than samson, not that has anything to do with this ha. col2y, if you dont already know how to splice do NOT start with a used rope, new rope is far far easier. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

8th April 2008, 11:18 AM	#7
jtrouse Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 63	Re: splicing XTC fire line well the yale instructions dont turn up as neat as the samsons ones, if you can find the yale ones your welcome to use them but id say use samsons much clearer and every 16strand rope can be done with these instructions. __________________ Regards Jim http://www.arborclimb.com.au CONTRACT CLIMBER CERT IV HORT(ARB) NMIT CERT III HORT (NMIT)

8th April 2008, 04:08 PM	#8
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: splicing XTC fire line Are fids absolutley nessacary?If so i've been doing a big no no using a matress needle for splicing. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th April 2008, 04:13 PM	#9
jtrouse Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 63	Re: splicing XTC fire line the highest gauge piano wire you can get is the best for a fid for splicing cause its much easier to pull the rope rather than push it especially in 16 strand. __________________ Regards Jim http://www.arborclimb.com.au CONTRACT CLIMBER CERT IV HORT(ARB) NMIT CERT III HORT (NMIT)

8th April 2008, 04:16 PM	#10
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: splicing XTC fire line So it makes the over under process easier because its flexible? __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th April 2008, 05:05 PM	#11
jtrouse Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 63	Re: splicing XTC fire line thats it, very easier after doing few, the final taper takes practice through. __________________ Regards Jim http://www.arborclimb.com.au CONTRACT CLIMBER CERT IV HORT(ARB) NMIT CERT III HORT (NMIT)

8th April 2008, 05:11 PM	#12
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: splicing XTC fire line We must do differnt splicing techniques,my pattern for every rope is seperate the strands,go over one and under the next until they're snugged up and tight then cut s the remaining strand with a hot knife. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th April 2008, 05:58 PM	#13
jtrouse Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 63	Re: splicing XTC fire line thats 3 strand or 12 strand splicing 16 strand is buried inside itself __________________ Regards Jim http://www.arborclimb.com.au CONTRACT CLIMBER CERT IV HORT(ARB) NMIT CERT III HORT (NMIT)

9th April 2008, 06:55 AM	#14
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: splicing XTC fire line let me make sure i understand the instructions right,you only tuck each strand once and the pull it out the end?Just asking never done 16 strand before and i'm half tempted to try it. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

9th April 2008, 02:31 PM	#15
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: splicing XTC fire line New Guy, check out one of the splicing sites, its the only way to remotely understand 16 strand or double braid splices apart from someone actually showing you. 3 strand has nothing on 16 strand or double braid splices in terms of difficulty. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

9th April 2008, 03:03 PM	#16
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: splicing XTC fire line I saw the one posted Jim,just trying to make sure i understand it correctly. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

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