splicing XTC fire line

Col2y · 5th April 2008, 08:33 PM

does anyone have a walk through on how to do this, as i mentioned earlier i have a fire line thats been cut in half, so i was thinking of making something out of it, be it a flip line or a sling

but in order to do so i need to know how to splice it

thanks

quercus · 6th April 2008, 06:50 AM

there are splicing instructions on yale's website for that. I've made splices before, but I'm not very good at it. The only thing I splice is rigging line and cobra bracing...but it takes long and like I said, I'm not very good at it.

Harrie · 7th April 2008, 11:14 AM

Here are some splicing instructions of different ropes.

Samson

jim1nz · 7th April 2008, 03:40 PM

Yale instructions are what im told by splicing legends are the best.

jtrouse · 7th April 2008, 03:46 PM

jim you wanna use samsons instructions for that, there the ones ive been using it is quite easy to perform. soak the rope in washing powder for a day to get ride of all the muck and sap otherwise youve got oe hope of splcing it up.

the finl taper is done by marking back where they exit between c and d and pulling on both the core and cover to expose more length cut where you marked them and then starting at where you just cut them make a cut every inch for 5 inches so you finish with 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 where you cut at the exit point.

Good luck

jim1nz · 7th April 2008, 03:58 PM

jtrouse, why use Samson instructions out of interest?

Its a Yale rope...

16 strand yale ropes seem easier to splice than samson, not that has anything to do with this ha.

col2y, if you dont already know how to splice do NOT start with a used rope, new rope is far far easier.

jtrouse · 7th April 2008, 04:18 PM

well the yale instructions dont turn up as neat as the samsons ones, if you can find the yale ones your welcome to use them but id say use samsons much clearer and every 16strand rope can be done with these instructions.

newguy18 · 7th April 2008, 09:08 PM

Are fids absolutley nessacary?If so i've been doing a big no no using a matress needle for splicing.

jtrouse · 7th April 2008, 09:13 PM

the highest gauge piano wire you can get is the best for a fid for splicing cause its much easier to pull the rope rather than push it especially in 16 strand.

newguy18 · 7th April 2008, 09:16 PM

So it makes the over under process easier because its flexible?

jtrouse · 7th April 2008, 10:05 PM

thats it, very easier after doing few, the final taper takes practice through.

newguy18 · 7th April 2008, 10:11 PM

We must do differnt splicing techniques,my pattern for every rope is seperate the strands,go over one and under the next until they're snugged up and tight then cut s the remaining strand with a hot knife.

jtrouse · 7th April 2008, 10:58 PM

thats 3 strand or 12 strand splicing 16 strand is buried inside itself

newguy18 · 8th April 2008, 11:55 AM

let me make sure i understand the instructions right,you only tuck each strand once and the pull it out the end?Just asking never done 16 strand before and i'm half tempted to try it.

jim1nz · 8th April 2008, 07:31 PM

New Guy, check out one of the splicing sites, its the only way to remotely understand 16 strand or double braid splices apart from someone actually showing you.

3 strand has nothing on 16 strand or double braid splices in terms of difficulty.

newguy18 · 8th April 2008, 08:03 PM

I saw the one posted Jim,just trying to make sure i understand it correctly.

5th April 2008, 08:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Col2y Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ontario Posts: 13	splicing XTC fire line does anyone have a walk through on how to do this, as i mentioned earlier i have a fire line thats been cut in half, so i was thinking of making something out of it, be it a flip line or a sling but in order to do so i need to know how to splice it thanks

6th April 2008, 06:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
quercus Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 414	Re: splicing XTC fire line there are splicing instructions on yale's website for that. I've made splices before, but I'm not very good at it. The only thing I splice is rigging line and cobra bracing...but it takes long and like I said, I'm not very good at it.

7th April 2008, 11:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Harrie Break'n the ice Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 8	Re: splicing XTC fire line Here are some splicing instructions of different ropes. Samson

7th April 2008, 03:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: splicing XTC fire line Yale instructions are what im told by splicing legends are the best. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

7th April 2008, 03:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
jtrouse Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 32	Re: splicing XTC fire line jim you wanna use samsons instructions for that, there the ones ive been using it is quite easy to perform. soak the rope in washing powder for a day to get ride of all the muck and sap otherwise youve got oe hope of splcing it up. the finl taper is done by marking back where they exit between c and d and pulling on both the core and cover to expose more length cut where you marked them and then starting at where you just cut them make a cut every inch for 5 inches so you finish with 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 where you cut at the exit point. Good luck __________________ Regards Jim

7th April 2008, 03:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: splicing XTC fire line jtrouse, why use Samson instructions out of interest? Its a Yale rope... 16 strand yale ropes seem easier to splice than samson, not that has anything to do with this ha. col2y, if you dont already know how to splice do NOT start with a used rope, new rope is far far easier. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

7th April 2008, 04:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
jtrouse Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 32	Re: splicing XTC fire line well the yale instructions dont turn up as neat as the samsons ones, if you can find the yale ones your welcome to use them but id say use samsons much clearer and every 16strand rope can be done with these instructions. __________________ Regards Jim

7th April 2008, 09:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: splicing XTC fire line Are fids absolutley nessacary?If so i've been doing a big no no using a matress needle for splicing. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

7th April 2008, 09:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
jtrouse Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 32	Re: splicing XTC fire line the highest gauge piano wire you can get is the best for a fid for splicing cause its much easier to pull the rope rather than push it especially in 16 strand. __________________ Regards Jim

7th April 2008, 09:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: splicing XTC fire line So it makes the over under process easier because its flexible? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

7th April 2008, 10:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
jtrouse Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 32	Re: splicing XTC fire line thats it, very easier after doing few, the final taper takes practice through. __________________ Regards Jim

7th April 2008, 10:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: splicing XTC fire line We must do differnt splicing techniques,my pattern for every rope is seperate the strands,go over one and under the next until they're snugged up and tight then cut s the remaining strand with a hot knife. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

7th April 2008, 10:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
jtrouse Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 32	Re: splicing XTC fire line thats 3 strand or 12 strand splicing 16 strand is buried inside itself __________________ Regards Jim

8th April 2008, 11:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: splicing XTC fire line let me make sure i understand the instructions right,you only tuck each strand once and the pull it out the end?Just asking never done 16 strand before and i'm half tempted to try it. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

8th April 2008, 07:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: splicing XTC fire line New Guy, check out one of the splicing sites, its the only way to remotely understand 16 strand or double braid splices apart from someone actually showing you. 3 strand has nothing on 16 strand or double braid splices in terms of difficulty. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

8th April 2008, 08:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: splicing XTC fire line I saw the one posted Jim,just trying to make sure i understand it correctly. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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