Splicing /Arborist Rope eye /Climbing line splice

jim1nz

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Samson

New England Ropes - Splicing Guide

Here are a few different sets of instructions. I highly recommend being taught by a trained professional and sending your splice samples to have them factory test broken. Splicing is quite an art and its not something you can just pick up and do. If in doubt, buy your rope pre spliced!

Cheers James

TrevMcRev

I'm just starting to splice my own stuff now. So i'm sure i'll have some questions for you. Thanks for starting this thread!

BTW, all gear i sell is outsourced for professional splicing.

Garry Brockley

Great links jim thank you

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TrevMcRev

I just spliced some tachyon last night, i'll post a pic once its whipped n finished.

jim1nz

Nice one trev, did you use the Tachyon instructions? Its slightly different to standard double braid

Grais

Hey Jim thanks a ton for the great splicing links.
I live far from any shops that might offer a professional splicing service, so, next best option(aside from on line orders that is), is too teach myself how to splice.
Thanks to your timely post, this is actually looking more feasible now.
Have a whole whack of 3 strand Arbormaster, or whatever the heck it is called, its a hard lay 3 strand, so I guess that'll be my first attempt, any words of advice from anyone ?
I see theres a number of books on the subject of splicing, any recommendations aside from 'Buy em all.....'
Thanks again Jim, and stay safe everyone.
-Grais.

TrevMcRev

Here are the tachyon instructions.

I did something to that effect

newguy18

Buy your self a point hudson phid.

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moray

I think you're talking about Tree Master. Grais, do yourself a favor and get 10 meters of cheap, small diameter hardware-store nylon 3 strand. This will be a soft-lay rope that will be easy to splice. Make half a dozen spliced eyes and you will have the technique down pat. THEN, with the Port Hudson fid, or some other really strong equivalent, take on the Tree Master. This is some really hard rope, and without good technique you are very likely to create hockles or other problems. Dealing with the hard lay with minimum disturbance to the rope is hard enough--you don't want to be learning how to splice at the same time!

The Brion Toss video is a great splicing tutorial. Good luck!

Therrin

jim1nz

Eye splicing 3 strand is like tying you shoes in terms of splicing ropes. Its very easy and straight forward to learn. That video seemed like a good visual tool to see how it works. Read through the Samson instruction on 3 strand which are also simple and accurate. Good luck mate!

When splicing Tachyon its very important to follow those instructions closely as this splice is not the same as standard double braids. Be sure not to have any bunching in the eye as this reduces strength considerably.

rich_h

Jim is absolutely right regarding the weakening of the rope due to slack in the eye. The splicing technicians at New England also mentioned that if the actual point where the sheath and core come together (step 7 in the New England instructions for Tachyon) is too tight it may also severly weaken the overall splice. The idea is to get the crossed over section snug but not too tight. Surprisingly massaging the throat of the splice with a mallet is also recommended. If nothing else, the mallet absolutely makes it easier to complete the final bury. I always found that a colorful vocabulary and reggae music playing in the background can be helpful as well.

letigre

age old solution. tried and tested.

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Grais

Thanks for all the advice guys, will do as instructed, and in time let you know how I make out.
Take care, and stay safe.
-Grais.

arbornizzle

Splicing rock, instead of being old and whittling wood on my porch, i think ill be old and splicing rope. Maybe even whittle a spliced eye from wood!!

jim1nz

The God Father has spoken, cheers Rich. This man is the best splicer i know hands down.

Bro when ya get a chance, add a link to your website, that is great source of information!! Take it easy

TrevMcRev

Oh yeah, here is my Tachyon splice...

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newguy18

Climb on it yet Trev?

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TrevMcRev

Not yet....

I'm too scared
I need you to be my crash test dummy first

newguy18

Send it over,ill even take pics of me useing it.I splice my lanyards,bee line included,and i climb on it almost everyday.I even spliced the 12 strand i used to climb on.

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jim1nz

Here is a link to the splice god fathers website

Rich Hattier - Home

Check it out, cheers James

Gunslinger

Nice job. For the guys who splices their own ropes I'm curious as to how these splices are tested? Do you just take it out and climb with it?

Grais

Mmmm, interesting thought.
For ones own personal `piece of mind` a guy could very quickly rig up a vertical load `tester`, climb a tree and hang a pulley off a branch. Using a variety of methods one could shock load the splice, as well as direct load type tests.
I would be interested in the process that takes place on professional splices?
just bought a kit full of fids and look forward this week to trying a few splices of my own.
Have a great week all, and stay safe
-Grais.

TrevMcRev

Here's an interesting Youtube clip:

Tree Machine

Welcome, Rich Hattier. You're a legend. I've met you at TCIA expos, back in the Sherrill days. I learned a lot from you.

I don't splice anymore. Splicing is a very patient art and time intensive and I don't seem to have the spare time I used to. I buy my splice work and feel it important to support that industry, and the art of splicing as a whole. If we all spliced our own stuff, then who would be buying splicework?

Being a customer is more economical for me than being a splicer, hope you appreciate the business! I appreciate the quality work from you and those you've taught.

jim1nz

Cool link there Trev.

Hey it looks like there is a bit of cover bunching in the eye of that tachyon splice but could just be the pic. Good job.

Rich has had a lot of samples tested and he told me its extremely important not to have any bunching in the eye. Its not a standard double braid splice and its important to follow the specific instructions from the rope manufacture.

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Cheers

Craig de Denus

Hi guys, Im just starting to splice my own rope, I have done a few double braid splices and at the moment I am splicing some 12mm 16 braid xtc plus. Im finding it very difficult pushing my fid through the cross over point... would be very thankful for any tips or advice you could give me cheers

Levi Parkin

I would recommend anchoring the slip knot you tied in the line to something sturdy and pulling the core out as far as you can while pushing as much slack into the cover at that point as you can. This should give you enough room to perform the crossover. Also, if you're using a tubular fid, ditch it and make yourself a wire fid. Makes splicing 16-strand much, much easier. Good luck.

Craig de Denus

Ok will do, thanks for the info

Craig de Denus

Hey guys, i managed to source some piano wire and make a long wire fid, works a treat can do the hole cross over in one pass, thanks for all the info I have another question now, its regarding the lock stitching / whipping. In the above post of the Tachyon splice, has it been lock stitched or is the whipping lock stitched with the vertical threats over top of the 'raps'? I have just been following the samson lock stitch and whipping procedures, but it doesn't show this technique. any feed back or links etc would be good