splice kit question

bigshea13 · 14th January 2008, 12:32 AM

i can splice up three strand no prob. but im unfamiliar with 16+ BRAID. im looking to buy a splice kit and noticed sampson as well as new england have their own kits out there . are the kits that specific or will the fids from either kit work with either make of rope?what about other brands? is there a universal kit? if so who makes it and where can i get it?

quercus · 14th January 2008, 04:26 PM

There are a lot of good web tutorials about splicing 16 strand climbing line. Samson has it on their website, so does Yale, and maybe some other brands too. Yale ahs a very good set. The rope splicing tools are universal, so with one kit, every rope could be spliced.

bigshea13 · 14th January 2008, 10:43 PM

thank you. for a while i didnt think anyone was going to be able to help me. "universal". what a great word. samson has nice kit, i think they are going to be the winner.

jim1nz · 14th January 2008, 11:43 PM

I have finally got my splicing sorted. I didnt find it easy learning to splice. It takes time to actually understand how it works and remember you cant see whats going on internally so make sure you get it right!

In regard to the kit, its not really an issue. You can use al sorts of alternative stuff to splice. Example

- wire as your fid, i have piano wire i use and it works really really well

All i use as splicing kit my kit is
- splicing manual/instructions
- a ruler
- marker
- chainsaw file with smooth rounded pointed end or fork with 1 prong for extracting the core
- wire fid 30 cm long or so, fine gauge wire wrapped around a carabiner
- a couple of slings and carabiners
- gloves sometimes

Total cost.... $20 maybe

Result....Same

Then i have stitching needles and either really think whipping twine or just builders twine. Thin whipping twine has been proven to weaken rope strength.

newguy18 · 16th January 2008, 02:25 PM

I splice with a mattress needle and a dull point needle.usually I can do 3 strand with just my hands and some electrical tape.

jim1nz · 16th January 2008, 04:43 PM

Yea you can pretty much use anything just as long as its NOT cutting or damaging rope fibres.

Ha i reckon splicing 3 strand is easy as tieing a knot just about.

bigshea13 · 17th January 2008, 12:59 AM

yep. its that easy. as long as your first three weaves are correct the rest can be done by your kids.

14th January 2008, 12:32 AM	#1
bigshea13 Former Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: super 8 motels Posts: 361	splice kit question i can splice up three strand no prob. but im unfamiliar with 16+ BRAID. im looking to buy a splice kit and noticed sampson as well as new england have their own kits out there . are the kits that specific or will the fids from either kit work with either make of rope?what about other brands? is there a universal kit? if so who makes it and where can i get it?

14th January 2008, 04:26 PM	#2
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 368	Re: splice kit question There are a lot of good web tutorials about splicing 16 strand climbing line. Samson has it on their website, so does Yale, and maybe some other brands too. Yale ahs a very good set. The rope splicing tools are universal, so with one kit, every rope could be spliced.

14th January 2008, 10:43 PM	#3
bigshea13 Former Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: super 8 motels Posts: 361	Re: splice kit question thank you. for a while i didnt think anyone was going to be able to help me. "universal". what a great word. samson has nice kit, i think they are going to be the winner.

14th January 2008, 11:43 PM	#4
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: splice kit question I have finally got my splicing sorted. I didnt find it easy learning to splice. It takes time to actually understand how it works and remember you cant see whats going on internally so make sure you get it right! In regard to the kit, its not really an issue. You can use al sorts of alternative stuff to splice. Example - wire as your fid, i have piano wire i use and it works really really well All i use as splicing kit my kit is - splicing manual/instructions - a ruler - marker - chainsaw file with smooth rounded pointed end or fork with 1 prong for extracting the core - wire fid 30 cm long or so, fine gauge wire wrapped around a carabiner - a couple of slings and carabiners - gloves sometimes Total cost.... $20 maybe Result....Same Then i have stitching needles and either really think whipping twine or just builders twine. Thin whipping twine has been proven to weaken rope strength. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

16th January 2008, 02:25 PM	#5
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: splice kit question I splice with a mattress needle and a dull point needle.usually I can do 3 strand with just my hands and some electrical tape. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

16th January 2008, 04:43 PM	#6
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: splice kit question Yea you can pretty much use anything just as long as its NOT cutting or damaging rope fibres. Ha i reckon splicing 3 strand is easy as tieing a knot just about. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

17th January 2008, 12:59 AM	#7
bigshea13 Former Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: super 8 motels Posts: 361	Re: splice kit question yep. its that easy. as long as your first three weaves are correct the rest can be done by your kids.

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