Speedlining

jim1nz · 31st January 2007, 02:00 AM

I have been tutoring a bunch of students climbing and pruning 2, we set up a simple speedline so i thought id show you how it went. Everyone was surprised how easy and efficent speedlining can be.

These pics are of Roy, one of many of my star students haha

Any questions, fire away.

Ekka · 31st January 2007, 02:14 AM

Lowering rope takes the fall, section is stopped and held up, speedline is tensioned, lowering rope is slowly released to allow section to be speedlined to the ground.

Sometimes a tag line is also required to pull the section along further.

Considerations, force on tensioned speedlines at knot end or tensioned end can be up to 5X the weight of the section.

Very well done Jim, nice pics. Get some more!

we'll start a whole section up called ANZAC's (Australia New Zealand Arbor Champions) eh?

jim1nz · 31st January 2007, 02:22 AM

Yea nice one Ekka, its hard to see all the lowering gear in the photos.

Haha thats a deal ANZAC's

a_lopa · 31st January 2007, 02:56 AM

Great pics Jim! ANZACS GOOD ONE EKKA!!!!

kauriman · 1st February 2007, 07:27 PM

hey Jim you need one of those flash computer programs that highlights the details on the pic. I think i could show you one next time i see you. But i gues i should try it first.

jim1nz · 1st February 2007, 08:27 PM

Hey Andy, great to see ya here! Yea that would be great. What magazine and what issues was the speedlining in that you have? Its a good reference.

RC1 · 4th February 2007, 02:49 AM

Nice setup, ideal tree structure as well.

I dont want to appear to be highjacking your thread Jim1NZ but I do believe my question is relevant. How many times does anyone actually use a speedline system? lets say over a 12 month period.

This thread has just brought it to my attention that I have not used one in over two years. I am not sure if Perhaps I just haven't recognized the opportunities or what. I also seem to recollect a preference to using them when we've been somewhat under-manned, perhaps in an attempt to reclaim the loss of that extra pair of hands.

Ive also had several experience's of colleagues 'going to sleep' instead of concentrating, perhaps because of the lack of physical stimulation during the process. What do you say guys?

Ekka · 4th February 2007, 03:46 AM

I used one two years ago at college! Not since. But I did use a verticle speed line, now that puppy has a place in everyday use especially on a hill.

Have you seen the video?

Saved some windows by inches oooooohhhhh, I'll have to whack it up in the video thread.

VSL is king!

rangitata · 4th February 2007, 01:18 PM

Hey Ekka, i found your new site (thanks colin), Should i comment on speedlining? My last post (another site filled with absolute .......

)
on this subject was interesting remember.

Cheers Mike.

Ekka · 4th February 2007, 10:38 PM

Yeah, post your video, that was Lumberjack that hounded you but we run this joint.

Anyone picks on Rangitata's video I'll do naughty things to your avatar.

I got some bad ones like some guy one handing a saw.

jim1nz · 5th February 2007, 01:56 AM

I just depends on the sort of work you get. If you get the hairy stuff with no safe landing spots then how else you gona do the job? Crain yea, helicopter yea but you gota weigh up the costs of course.

I think they are great, little set up time if you have used one a few times, very efficient and make the job soo much easier.

Im not that into dragging brush up hill and out of some ones garden so i dont think my groundies should have to if its not necessary.

Ekka · 5th February 2007, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim1nz

Im not that into dragging brush up hill and out of some ones garden so i dont think my groundies should have to if its not necessary.

Yeah, it's gonna be great groundying for you.

Speedline straight to the chipper thanks.

jim1nz · 5th February 2007, 02:22 AM

Thats always the plan!

RC1 · 5th February 2007, 05:32 AM

Jim. you're absolutely right. I shall have to re-discover my speedlining foresight.

jim1nz · 5th February 2007, 10:53 PM

Good on ya RC1

kauriman · 6th February 2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim1nz

Hey, great to see ya here! Yea that would be great. What magazine and what issues was the speedlining in that you have? Its a good reference.

ISA "Arborist News" August and October issues 2006. Great pictures and discriptions by Mark Adams

Fairfield · 7th April 2007, 03:28 PM

Speed lining, the most over looked value of rigging. Not only will they bring things down and over to where you want it faster but you can also bring things over stop it mid-air bring a sling down then lift it back up. I love the whole idea of them.

TREE-SURFER · 8th April 2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim1nz

I have been tutoring a bunch of students climbing and pruning 2, we set up a simple speedline so i thought id show you how it went. Everyone was surprised how easy and efficent speedlining can be.

These pics are of Roy, one of many of my star students haha

Any questions, fire away.

Like:::: How tall was that mother. That was HUGE...

31st January 2007, 02:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Lowering rope takes the fall, section is stopped and held up, speedline is tensioned, lowering rope is slowly released to allow section to be speedlined to the ground. Sometimes a tag line is also required to pull the section along further. Considerations, force on tensioned speedlines at knot end or tensioned end can be up to 5X the weight of the section. Very well done Jim, nice pics. Get some more! we'll start a whole section up called ANZAC's (Australia New Zealand Arbor Champions) eh? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

31st January 2007, 02:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Yea nice one Ekka, its hard to see all the lowering gear in the photos. Haha thats a deal ANZAC's __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

31st January 2007, 02:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 877	Great pics Jim! ANZACS GOOD ONE EKKA!!!! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

1st February 2007, 08:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Hey Andy, great to see ya here! Yea that would be great. What magazine and what issues was the speedlining in that you have? Its a good reference. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

4th February 2007, 03:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	I used one two years ago at college! Not since. But I did use a verticle speed line, now that puppy has a place in everyday use especially on a hill. Have you seen the video? Saved some windows by inches oooooohhhhh, I'll have to whack it up in the video thread. VSL is king! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st February 2007, 07:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
kauriman Sappling Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 23	hey Jim you need one of those flash computer programs that highlights the details on the pic. I think i could show you one next time i see you. But i gues i should try it first.

4th February 2007, 02:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
RC1 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macclesfield England Posts: 154	Nice setup, ideal tree structure as well. I dont want to appear to be highjacking your thread Jim1NZ but I do believe my question is relevant. How many times does anyone actually use a speedline system? lets say over a 12 month period. This thread has just brought it to my attention that I have not used one in over two years. I am not sure if Perhaps I just haven't recognized the opportunities or what. I also seem to recollect a preference to using them when we've been somewhat under-manned, perhaps in an attempt to reclaim the loss of that extra pair of hands. Ive also had several experience's of colleagues 'going to sleep' instead of concentrating, perhaps because of the lack of physical stimulation during the process. What do you say guys?

4th February 2007, 01:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
rangitata Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 65	Speedlining Hey Ekka, i found your new site (thanks colin), Should i comment on speedlining? My last post (another site filled with absolute ....... ) on this subject was interesting remember. Cheers Mike.

4th February 2007, 10:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Yeah, post your video, that was Lumberjack that hounded you but we run this joint. Anyone picks on Rangitata's video I'll do naughty things to your avatar. I got some bad ones like some guy one handing a saw. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

5th February 2007, 01:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	I just depends on the sort of work you get. If you get the hairy stuff with no safe landing spots then how else you gona do the job? Crain yea, helicopter yea but you gota weigh up the costs of course. I think they are great, little set up time if you have used one a few times, very efficient and make the job soo much easier. Im not that into dragging brush up hill and out of some ones garden so i dont think my groundies should have to if its not necessary. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

5th February 2007, 02:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Thats always the plan! __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

5th February 2007, 05:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
RC1 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macclesfield England Posts: 154	Jim. you're absolutely right. I shall have to re-discover my speedlining foresight.

5th February 2007, 10:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Good on ya RC1 __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

7th April 2007, 03:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 72	Speed lining, the most over looked value of rigging. Not only will they bring things down and over to where you want it faster but you can also bring things over stop it mid-air bring a sling down then lift it back up. I love the whole idea of them. __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you