newguy's srt tech.

newguy18 · 8th May 2008, 04:29 AM

I figured i'd post something i've been using for srt.The ascending method saves tons of energy as opposed to footlocking but is not good for descending.I got the bugs worked out of the hitch but must warn that while it descends srt without a figure 8 it is extremly fussy and creeps just a bit after you release it,only about 1/2 an inch.

newguy18 · 8th May 2008, 04:30 AM

some more,

newguy18 · 8th May 2008, 04:31 AM

more.

newguy18 · 8th May 2008, 04:32 AM

the rest.

Eric Frei · 8th May 2008, 08:03 AM

Reminds me of this cable ladder we had when we went caving .... a bugger when it's hard up against the rock face plus the spinning sucked.

Therrin · 8th May 2008, 04:13 PM

Nice rope Bill!!

Is that a <gasp> screw lock biner clipping you into your harness?

I can't really comment on the technique as it's pretty different from anything I've ever used. Looks a little ungracefull, but if it works then

When ya gonna post a picture of yourself on TW?

newguy18 · 8th May 2008, 11:55 PM

i did already.

rbtree · 11th January 2009, 12:59 AM

Hard to tell anything from the fuzzy pics, but don't think that's kosher.

Hope you've moved on to some real biners, instead of that $4 screw locking toy.

newguy18 · 11th January 2009, 01:27 AM

Yes i use autolockers,why wouldn't the knot be kosher?

rbtree · 11th January 2009, 01:38 AM

Because, regardless of the knot used, none are designed or recommended to take full weight of SRT descent.

I've come down SRT on a friction hitch a couple times.....and it was obvious it was not a good thing..and that was prolly with a vt...one of the hitches least likely to overload or bind up.

What was with those loops? for your feet for going up? gracias......

newguy18 · 11th January 2009, 01:42 AM

The loops are because i don't trust ascenders and most srt techs i've seen involve too much gear for my liking.As for the knot it works,it does generate alot of heat so take it easy and regardless something like that can help not only our industry but maybe others as well,just trying to help others.

Therrin · 11th January 2009, 11:38 AM

Mmmmm, srt....

jim1nz · 11th January 2009, 05:24 PM

Hey new guy, can you post a video of your ascent on the system you have there, cheers.

newguy18 · 12th January 2009, 01:49 AM

As soon as i buy a camera Jim,things are slow here in north central florida.One day though.

TreeDimensional · 12th January 2009, 02:45 AM

Borrow a video camera, I want to see it in action too!

rbtree · 12th January 2009, 02:53 AM

Make sure your ascent is good and long, say, 75 feet.....

..not that 75' is long.....

newguy18 · 12th January 2009, 03:30 AM

Don't know anyone who has one Brent,or else i would.75',thats long?

jim1nz · 12th January 2009, 07:53 AM

Not to be a prick but things would be slow if you used that system...

newguy18 · 12th January 2009, 07:58 AM

With the back up yes,i only used the klemheist because i posted pics on an open forum,notice you don't seep ics of me working in trees?I don't want a newbie looking at my pictures,then hurting himself because he saw me do it.

Therrin · 12th January 2009, 08:35 AM

This should be Bill's new Avatar =)

newguy18 · 12th January 2009, 11:35 AM

rbtree · 12th January 2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

This should be Bill's new Avatar =)

Is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear make doodoo in the woods?

rbtree · 12th January 2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

Don't know anyone who has one Brent,or else i would.75',thats long?

Not even close...

...but..

....do you have a 225 foot rope?

and where'd you get that blue/white stuff? HomeyDepot?

newguy18 · 12th January 2009, 03:19 PM

Don't need a 225' rope,the lan of trees no taller than about 150' remember.

Besides,i'm never pruning when up that high,if i'm up 150' then the tree is coming down.Around here its usually cut the damn tree down,or leave it alone.

Therrin · 12th January 2009, 08:30 PM

You've gotta watch out saying stuff like that with Treeseer around Bill

=X

jim1nz · 13th January 2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

With the back up yes,i only used the klemheist because i posted pics on an open forum,notice you don't seep ics of me working in trees?I don't want a newbie looking at my pictures,then hurting himself because he saw me do it.

Well that seems funny to me. So if what you says true, you do nothing safe by an arborists standard, then how can you help anyone on this forum?

Are people meant to learn from your mistakes, like when you fall and kill yourself?

If so then thanks in advance!

rbtree · 15th January 2009, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

Don't need a 225' rope,the lan of trees no taller than about 150' remember.

Besides,i'm never pruning when up that high,if i'm up 150' then the tree is coming down.Around here its usually cut the damn tree down,or leave it alone.

I was talking about that loopdeloop mess you had going there. I guessed that you'd need a 225 footer to get up 75 feet with that funny setup you showed.

But hey, do you even have a throwline?

jim1nz · 15th January 2009, 07:24 AM

(WLL) · 15th March 2009, 09:37 AM

you wont trust a specialized purpose buit ascender but you will hang your life from a kiddy jump rope cord. check yo self before ya wreck yo self.

your posts just dont add up

newguy18 · 15th March 2009, 09:48 AM

Nope,don't trust ascenders,that rope,spliced it myself,its a piece of my first lanyard from when i started,now its been downgraded to a saw lanyard.I don't do much in the way of srt.As for check myself before i wreck myself,my back is fubar already,plus being self destructive is too much fun.

8th May 2008, 04:29 AM	#1
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	newguy's srt tech. I figured i'd post something i've been using for srt.The ascending method saves tons of energy as opposed to footlocking but is not good for descending.I got the bugs worked out of the hitch but must warn that while it descends srt without a figure 8 it is extremly fussy and creeps just a bit after you release it,only about 1/2 an inch. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th May 2008, 04:30 AM	#2
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8th May 2008, 04:31 AM	#3
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8th May 2008, 04:32 AM	#4
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8th May 2008, 08:03 AM	#5
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8th May 2008, 04:13 PM	#6
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: newguy's srt tech. Nice rope Bill!! Is that a <gasp> screw lock biner clipping you into your harness? I can't really comment on the technique as it's pretty different from anything I've ever used. Looks a little ungracefull, but if it works then When ya gonna post a picture of yourself on TW?

8th May 2008, 11:55 PM	#7
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. i did already. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

11th January 2009, 12:59 AM	#8
rbtree Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh Posts: 403	Re: newguy's srt tech. Hard to tell anything from the fuzzy pics, but don't think that's kosher. Hope you've moved on to some real biners, instead of that $4 screw locking toy.

11th January 2009, 01:27 AM	#9
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. Yes i use autolockers,why wouldn't the knot be kosher? __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

11th January 2009, 01:38 AM	#10
rbtree Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh Posts: 403	Re: newguy's srt tech. Because, regardless of the knot used, none are designed or recommended to take full weight of SRT descent. I've come down SRT on a friction hitch a couple times.....and it was obvious it was not a good thing..and that was prolly with a vt...one of the hitches least likely to overload or bind up. What was with those loops? for your feet for going up? gracias......

11th January 2009, 01:42 AM	#11
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. The loops are because i don't trust ascenders and most srt techs i've seen involve too much gear for my liking.As for the knot it works,it does generate alot of heat so take it easy and regardless something like that can help not only our industry but maybe others as well,just trying to help others. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

11th January 2009, 11:38 AM	#12
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: newguy's srt tech. Mmmmm, srt.... Attached Thumbnails

11th January 2009, 05:24 PM	#13
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: newguy's srt tech. Hey new guy, can you post a video of your ascent on the system you have there, cheers.

12th January 2009, 01:49 AM	#14
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. As soon as i buy a camera Jim,things are slow here in north central florida.One day though. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

12th January 2009, 02:45 AM	#15
TreeDimensional Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 421	Re: newguy's srt tech. Borrow a video camera, I want to see it in action too!

12th January 2009, 02:53 AM	#16
rbtree Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh Posts: 403	Re: newguy's srt tech. Make sure your ascent is good and long, say, 75 feet..... ..not that 75' is long.....

12th January 2009, 03:30 AM	#17
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. Don't know anyone who has one Brent,or else i would.75',thats long? __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

12th January 2009, 07:53 AM	#18
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: newguy's srt tech. Not to be a prick but things would be slow if you used that system...

12th January 2009, 07:58 AM	#19
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. With the back up yes,i only used the klemheist because i posted pics on an open forum,notice you don't seep ics of me working in trees?I don't want a newbie looking at my pictures,then hurting himself because he saw me do it. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

12th January 2009, 08:35 AM	#20
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: newguy's srt tech. This should be Bill's new Avatar =)

12th January 2009, 11:35 AM	#21
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

12th January 2009, 03:19 PM	#24
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. Don't need a 225' rope,the lan of trees no taller than about 150' remember.Besides,i'm never pruning when up that high,if i'm up 150' then the tree is coming down.Around here its usually cut the damn tree down,or leave it alone. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

12th January 2009, 08:30 PM	#25
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: newguy's srt tech. You've gotta watch out saying stuff like that with Treeseer around Bill =X

15th January 2009, 07:24 AM	#28
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: newguy's srt tech.

15th March 2009, 09:37 AM	#29
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: newguy's srt tech. you wont trust a specialized purpose buit ascender but you will hang your life from a kiddy jump rope cord. check yo self before ya wreck yo self. your posts just dont add up

15th March 2009, 09:48 AM	#30
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: newguy's srt tech. Nope,don't trust ascenders,that rope,spliced it myself,its a piece of my first lanyard from when i started,now its been downgraded to a saw lanyard.I don't do much in the way of srt.As for check myself before i wreck myself,my back is fubar already,plus being self destructive is too much fun. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

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