Need static access line

MTS247

Anyone got any recomendations for a good static access line?
Needs to be big enough to grip for footlock.
And will be used for SRT also.

Using some poison ivy for now but it wont like being draged through crotches all the time.

Thanks

TreeDimensional

Try Samson Velocity Hot OR Vector (very low stretch) If you are using it with some mechanical toys like a I'D/Gir-Gir or Stop check on the diameter of rope that these tools will accept. I use 11mm Velocity.

Check the Sherill site, they have a rope index of all the brands!

mn2005

I can recomented czech rope´s SINGING ROCK. This company exporting to USA and other country, ropes are high quality but cheaper then Edelrid, Yale Cordage, XTC etc... We worked with this ropes long time and we are verry satisfied
Here is web sites in english:
Static - ROPES - PRODUCTS - WORKING and RESCUE - SINGING ROCK - climbing equipment

Maybe you can buy Singing Rock in Australia too.

Enjoy, martin*

letigre

me and a work buddy picked up 60m each of eldelrid black 11mm access line for $250 a pop from srt. good stuff wearing well. nice and lite

MTS247

where is this srt shop?
Is that superstatic or prostatic?
EDELRID Sports - Superstatic

letigre

superstatic im pretty sure. Srt AUS is located at 9 nelson ave padstow 2011. lukes a good guy he'll sort ya out

jim1nz

Velocity is great for footlock but dont run through ascending gear so well, plus its stretchy.

Dynema 10 or 11mm edelrid

Liros Racer 10mm 32 strand is the best for both, seriously the best youll find

Get ya wallet out haha

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MTS247

Anyone tryed Donaghys Response XT?

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Velocity works great for me. Very low stretch imo, and I have had no trouble with ascenders running thru it. New england safety blue is the only other rope I've used, velocity is far less bouncy with a much tougher sheathing.

Never tried that liros racer but probably would if it were available in the usa.
There is one slight problem with the liros racer 10mm, i saw it's rated at 5000lb
break strength, must be 5400 in usa to meet climbing line standards.....I'm pretty sure.

Cole

i run liros racer 10mm for all my access lines now, i now use Yale Kernmaster for industrial work, got seriously 100's meteres of the old blue water like most people, i find the liros racer is best im a big fan of mechanical devices and find the liros is my fav, i also found that the braids dont get "unpicked" if you might call it that by the toothed cams as much as my other static ropes would.

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You know come to think of it I've climbed on some of the old blue water and a friend of mine loaned me and loved the stuff, extremely tough and hardly any stretch at all. However I was discouraged from buying it as a arborist climbing line. I was disapointed but took the advice. The reason cited was it was just to static, and a short fall could be a serious risk for injury. So would static be fine for Access only? or are some of you climbing on static lines?

Cole

i have my twin rope climbing system piggy backed ontop my static access line but dont climb on it primarily, i use static lines in industial work.the old bluewater its great static access line hardwearing and works well when its wet and dirty, works better through mechanical devices, youll find most static line dony footlock real well because they are stiff, so for footlocking stick to your ivy and just use your static for access, rescue

jim1nz

Ha mate thats 5000kg not pounds. 10mm Liros Racer is rated over 11000 pounds! Like i say, i reckon its the best on the market but you sure do have to pay for the best, its not cheap.

Cole how are you finding your Racer?

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LOL....thanks for settin me straight Jim.

Cole

LMFAO sorry banner but i found it funny, yeah jim for sure i think its the best out there, have you tried Teufelberger Globe 5000, or Yale Kernmaster, one of the guys has snakebite which was the first i used and i neally brought it then i used some racer and yeah havent looked back

jim1nz

Yea tried the Globe and is good sure, for me though its Liros.

Havent tried the kernmaster but won a snake bite in a climbing comp, its hard wearing and for the listed price its good. Not such a good feel but free is free.

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LOL.... No problem.....Glad I could help cheer you up. I hate when miss crap like that, but it happens. Jim cracked me up with his response to my oversight. You gotta love it.....lol. I guess I'll go for the bluewater anyway. Hell durabilty is what I'm after primarily and bluewater 2 static is some tough stuff and I think its approx 8000 lb tensile strength for the 7/16, can't remember exactly but 8 is close. Will check on the Yale kernmaster to.

Cole

sounds good, what sort of SRT set-up are you using or planning to use.

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I haven't decided yet Cole. I do like having two TIP's/ropes for positioning/ manuvering in the canopy, and less stretch when making long ascents. In addition it seems to me I could save money by reducing wear and tear on my working line by employing a access line, not to mention the energy saved making the ascent on static line. Make any sense?
It would be nice to see your srt set up.....a pic maybe. You mentioned piggybacking your ropes? All that comes to mind is one of those Kong double rope ascenders possibly. I'm all ears for good methods though. As of yet I have never climbed SRT,only DRT however I've done a good amount of reading about it and the methods. So far I have 2 petzel crolls and ascenders, and a cmi left foot ascender. I've been toying setting up a rope walker system with one of the crolls.

All the knowledge I have is from reading and videos and primarily recreational experience, working on my own trees. Unfortunately climbers are a bit of are scarecity in the area I live in....not a logging area and tree hacks are common place in the market. Isa standards here are pretty close to non existant. Needless to say learning is a long process in my situation, trial and error.

Cole

yeah i would definetly say use SRT you already have most of the gear so it wont cost that much, costs a bit but damm it makes life easier and safer. with some tips and tricks i think you will be rope walking like a champ. Ive got 1000's $$$ of mechanical gear and use a few diffrent SRT set-ups, my main srt set up is a kong double ascender or petzl ascension "hand ascender" petzl croll and the CMI foot ascender ive got a petzl pantin and i like the CMI better. and a petzl footloop PRO. To set it up working top to bottom,you want to set up you srt line in the tree, place the hand ascender on the rope about head height and have a connection from the hand ascender to your harness must have karabiners connecting both to the hand ascender and your harness. you then want to make a footloop i use the petzl footloop pro its cheap and adjustable,you can use rope also. connect this also from the hand ascender " you can use the karabiner thats already on the ascender that connects to your harness. the foot loop should sit about 15cm of the ground that how i have mine. ok now for the chest ascender "croll" im not sure what harness youve got but get some shoulder straps if you want, so that the croll can progress with your body as you ascend the line, you want to connect the croll also to your harness with a karabiner and then go buy some elastic cord and tie a loop through the top hole in the croll then place your head through the loop and adjust the the croll by sitting in your harness so you get the TRUE heigh of your bridge when hanging then adjust the elastic cord. it should sit flush to your body not lose or moving around as this will be ascender you will hang from if you were to rest or stop rope walking".
ok when connecting to the srt line i run the line through two biners, so for example if i left the cam lock open and the rope cam out of the cam the karabiner would stop the ascender from seperating from your srt line. then jump on your line set check all your ascenders biners, and away you so...REMEMBER to take your DRT with you or a figure 8 decender up with you, but youll learn other ways to install your static to acheive optimum results.

low and slow
cheers, cole

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Thanks Cole, A liitle tough to visualize all you said, but I think I can figure it all out in time......low and slow.....gotcha, thanks