installing rope guide from the ground

letigre · 5th March 2009, 10:29 PM

i heard on the grapevine, it is in fact possible to set a art rope guide from the ground. is this true? has anyone heard or seen anything? ive been trawling the net trying to find some info but i cant seem to find anything. i vaguely remember a demonstration a couple of years ago when i was unfamiliar with the rope guide but i cant remember whether it was setting or retrieving.

help would be muchly appreciated

jim1nz · 6th March 2009, 09:09 AM

Here you go

gump · 6th March 2009, 07:18 PM

sup jim, where find that, i seen it once before, maybe another site. not sure, tiger thinks you are a golden god for sending this. ha ha, working with him in sydney. catch ya in less than a month chur.

Eric Frei · 6th March 2009, 07:21 PM

That'd be Walter from TB.

letigre · 6th March 2009, 07:38 PM

cheers jim. nice of a REAL climber to take time out of his busy schedule to teach a LOWLY amateur.

g'day ekka. whats tb stand for?

Eric Frei · 6th March 2009, 07:43 PM

tuberculosis

jim1nz · 7th March 2009, 05:56 AM

Haha yea no worries, im sure there is a way to do it using ya throwline differently to incorporate the retrieval shackle too, i might have a play with and get back to ya here!

Yea sweet Scotty, ha think ill be burnt out by the time i get to NC!!! Ahh cant complain

jim1nz · 7th March 2009, 06:03 AM

So yea, you need another throwline through the shackle before you pull the system into the tree. Once the rope and ropeguide is installed, you run the TAIL of your rope up through the shackle.

Bit too much work but thats how its done, saves you using twice the length of your rope to include the shackle. Think you will have big problems trying to putt the tail through the shackle unless you put a band on the end...

letigre · 10th March 2009, 10:26 PM

shot bo, i gave it a crack today, worked, but IMO bit of a time waster, good for small trees tho!! similar to the "doug"! ya catch the drift.

Garry Brockley · 10th March 2009, 10:32 PM

I used that system on a 20 meter leaner with no real safe attachment points at alma park zoo a few weeks ago and it was a real energy saver it seems long winded but has its applications in the right situations nice one jim

(WLL) · 11th March 2009, 05:21 AM

the best feature about the rope guide is it cinches down, meaning it does not need a crotch. IMO if you want to use a crotch then its better to use a non adjusting friction saver. i have posted a pic of the one i made at home, its tenex hollow braid covered with a nylon tube, easy to set and remove from the ground, its also cheap and crafty, they last a very long time. i can set up the rg by throwing a bight of rope but i seldom ever do. the rg is an awesome tool. IMO a.r.t. has the best stuff on the market, i have every tool they make sept. fer the latest rg, IMO it looks like crap.

anuvadave · 22nd November 2010, 11:32 PM

Hi I'm thinking about making a RG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by (WLL)

if you want to use a crotch then its better to use a non adjusting friction saver.

What makes a standard friction saver better?

Quote:

Originally Posted by (WLL)

the latest rg, IMO it looks like crap.

Why iS that?

ArbTrain · 22nd February 2011, 09:07 PM

When i first started one of our boys knew the secret of setting the line from the ground and he told us all- " u cant be shown - u have to earn it",,, bastard.. it is an awesum tyrick saves so much effort and is SO EASY once u have seen it- i wont describe it- get hold of JEFF JEPSOMS book on the basics of tree climbing - it is a great resource and explains it well.. hope this helps

5th March 2009, 10:29 PM	#1
letigre Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 158	installing rope guide from the ground i heard on the grapevine, it is in fact possible to set a art rope guide from the ground. is this true? has anyone heard or seen anything? ive been trawling the net trying to find some info but i cant seem to find anything. i vaguely remember a demonstration a couple of years ago when i was unfamiliar with the rope guide but i cant remember whether it was setting or retrieving. help would be muchly appreciated

6th March 2009, 07:18 PM	#3
gump Sappling Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 18	Re: installing rope guide from the ground sup jim, where find that, i seen it once before, maybe another site. not sure, tiger thinks you are a golden god for sending this. ha ha, working with him in sydney. catch ya in less than a month chur.

6th March 2009, 07:21 PM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: installing rope guide from the ground That'd be Walter from TB. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th March 2009, 07:38 PM	#5
letigre Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 158	Re: installing rope guide from the ground cheers jim. nice of a REAL climber to take time out of his busy schedule to teach a LOWLY amateur. g'day ekka. whats tb stand for?

6th March 2009, 07:43 PM	#6
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: installing rope guide from the ground tuberculosis __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

7th March 2009, 05:56 AM	#7
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: installing rope guide from the ground Haha yea no worries, im sure there is a way to do it using ya throwline differently to incorporate the retrieval shackle too, i might have a play with and get back to ya here! Yea sweet Scotty, ha think ill be burnt out by the time i get to NC!!! Ahh cant complain __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

7th March 2009, 06:03 AM	#8
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 476	Re: installing rope guide from the ground So yea, you need another throwline through the shackle before you pull the system into the tree. Once the rope and ropeguide is installed, you run the TAIL of your rope up through the shackle. Bit too much work but thats how its done, saves you using twice the length of your rope to include the shackle. Think you will have big problems trying to putt the tail through the shackle unless you put a band on the end... __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

10th March 2009, 10:26 PM	#9
letigre Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 158	Re: installing rope guide from the ground shot bo, i gave it a crack today, worked, but IMO bit of a time waster, good for small trees tho!! similar to the "doug"! ya catch the drift.

10th March 2009, 10:32 PM	#10
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: installing rope guide from the ground I used that system on a 20 meter leaner with no real safe attachment points at alma park zoo a few weeks ago and it was a real energy saver it seems long winded but has its applications in the right situations nice one jim __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

11th March 2009, 05:21 AM	#11
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: installing rope guide from the ground the best feature about the rope guide is it cinches down, meaning it does not need a crotch. IMO if you want to use a crotch then its better to use a non adjusting friction saver. i have posted a pic of the one i made at home, its tenex hollow braid covered with a nylon tube, easy to set and remove from the ground, its also cheap and crafty, they last a very long time. i can set up the rg by throwing a bight of rope but i seldom ever do. the rg is an awesome tool. IMO a.r.t. has the best stuff on the market, i have every tool they make sept. fer the latest rg, IMO it looks like crap. Attached Thumbnails

22nd February 2011, 09:07 PM	#13
ArbTrain Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Coast Posts: 115	Re: installing rope guide from the ground When i first started one of our boys knew the secret of setting the line from the ground and he told us all- " u cant be shown - u have to earn it",,, bastard.. it is an awesum tyrick saves so much effort and is SO EASY once u have seen it- i wont describe it- get hold of JEFF JEPSOMS book on the basics of tree climbing - it is a great resource and explains it well.. hope this helps __________________ ArbTrain - improving industry safety by providing quality training at affordable prices.

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