ice spikes??(crampons)

clarke mcclymont

Just after some thoughts on other alternatives to tree climbing spikes;i do alot of offroad and endurance running and are having trouble with my foot arches and espicially my right archillies as i stand in the tree staggered with my right foot bearing most most of my weight.
Has anyone ever tried crampons as in ones used in climbing ice walls etc....?
Would appreciate any thoughts,thanks,clarke.

arborjockey

check youtube their are some norwegians that climb tres with ice climbing gear maybe check with them.
they make bottom plates for climbers so your not standing on a shaft

southsoundtree

I heard of a homemade option for this. Two pieces of plywood, with spacers that are the size of the shank. Place one on top, one on the bottom of the shank, spacers between.

Might be a way to try it out without having to buy them, and it might work in the longterm as well.

Russian

In ex USSR republics "hard" crampons (crampons on mountain-ski boots) are very common.





In Belarus people quit happy to use "lazy" ore "kogti"



Both of ways have benefits as well as downsides. But definitely each of techniques requires long time training before you see benefits.

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Therrin

Seems like every year or so this question comes up.

I'm pretty sure I asked it myself 3 or 4 years ago.

Some of the things I now inherently understand better than I did back then. But the thickness of the metal in crampons isn't anywhere close to what's used in gaffs; and likewise wasn't *made* for constant spiking into trees and treework environments.

But yes, some people apparently do have use with them.


You guys remember that one bloke in here who like'd using that saftey reel, and the ice axes? The one who wiped out those telephone poles on that residential block??

Eric Frei

LOL, how can we forget that guy.

Aerial was his name and it started here.

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lol..that was a classic.... I laughed so much after seeing that again...give me...

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Therrin

Apparently there's good reason that tree gear is tree gear, and climbing gear is climbing gear. Well, in most cases anyway.

This isn't all too dissimilar a question as "couldn't we just use shotguns to place throwlines?"

sueann

Wow!!!

Ariel is a former member? He didn't like have a bad accident up a tree and die did he?

Therrin

Noone knows. He dropped off the radar. (or got banned, or something).

I forgot (again) that my pictures and videos of the "Arbor Harpoon" (12 guage line launcher) are no longer showing here on the site. It was an epic tool. Slightly unnecessary, but that didnt keep me from using it several times on rural clients properties.

It's retired at the moment. (unless perhaps I need it)

Apocalypsse

Is that guy dead yet or what?

Therrin

Or maybe someone does, but I'm pretty sure NOONE KNOWS.

As I recall, it went something like this:

"so then it comes down and twists and hits the guywire to the powerline. And then 2 poles down, one of them busts out from the force and falls over. Not even the one that was hit! But in retrospect this is a very good thing, that it happened that day. Otherwise that weakened pole could have come down any old time at random and someone could have been hurt!! It was really better that it happened this way, that we were able to negate a future problem that could have killed someone"

Seriously... (yes, SERIOUSLY) that's basically the way he explained it to us.

Eric Frei

Fixed. I know I fixed the other shotgun one but didn't know about this one. If people want things fixed provide the full details including thread URL's.

Arbor Harpoon

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sueann

He had an answer for everything, I did laugh when he started explaining about the tele pole though.