Haul rope

a_lopa · 13th October 2007, 01:45 AM

Thinking of buying some of this for a heavy pull rope for excavator/pulling over jobs.

What do you guys think? the temperature points im going to ring them about..

http://www.jeyco.com.au/Products%20C...and%20Rope.pdf

Ekka · 13th October 2007, 02:38 AM

That's a bloody strong rope!

I cant see the melting point being so low, seems odd.

Wonder how much it costs?

a_lopa · 13th October 2007, 03:09 AM

We will soon see how much!

There shackles are heavy duty..

a_lopa · 13th October 2007, 03:17 AM

This looks OK.... A. Noble & Son Ltd

Ekka · 13th October 2007, 03:27 AM

Yeah that looks real good, not as strong but is double braid with higher melting point jacket.

They were in Adelaide (A Noble and Son), check that on price too!

a_lopa · 13th October 2007, 04:09 AM

Yes they have a store 40 minutes away,ill report back on costs.

Quintrex · 14th October 2007, 03:05 AM

Those ropes both look pretty impressive, very strong for DIA.
Did you consider using steel cable for hauling with excavator?

redstree · 18th October 2007, 09:59 PM

The low melting point is not an issue unless you are running it thru a crotch. Used as a pull line the 140C melting point is a non-issue. With that melting point I think the fiber is Dyneema. This is a great new fiber. It is even a replacement for Kevlar in bullet proof clothing.

Dyneema fiber makes an excellant replacement for wire winch cables. It's low melting point does not seem to detract from it's effectivness. It is a very light, extremely strong, low stretch, abrasion resistant, fiber. Best thing is that you do not have to worry about "fish hooks" when you are handling it.

As with any of the modern, high strength, low stretch, ropes you must be careful about how you attatch it to something. Not all knots work well. Spliced eyes are preferable. Most of the modern fibers do not like to make tight bends. The tighter the bend, the greater the loss of strength.

It is so light that it floats and does not adsorb water. It is also unaffeced by UV and most common chemicals including oil and gasoline.

Ekka · 18th October 2007, 10:11 PM

Amazing to have a fiber stronger than steel.

Many winch cables on new chippers are this stuff, feels a little inadequate when you start hauling a log but it's strong alright.

a_lopa · 18th October 2007, 11:28 PM

They got back to me on the supermax but only have it in 14mm i want 20mm,$15 to splice an eye in it.

treesailor · 2nd November 2007, 07:56 PM

Sampson has the rope you are looking for. These high strength ropes have the breaking strength but not the duribility of cable but take a look http://www.samsonrope.com/site_files...st_Catalog.pdf

Ekka · 2nd November 2007, 11:40 PM

treesailor

I use Samson ropes and give them the thumbs up.

However their toughest rope is tenex and 1" dia is 20,000kg breaking.

The equivalent in newer high tech fibre for that dia such as plasma is 50,000kg.

There's a whole new breed of high tech ropes and fibre out way stronger than tenex.

Lopa's after these to replace steel cable as they are stronger than steel. Samson doesn't do these ropes yet.

The yachting guy I go to for some rope splicing etc uses these newer ropes to replace the cable used on the masts etc.

Welcome to Tree World

Done it · 27th November 2007, 03:01 AM

Hi, have you heard of LB Wire Ropes, LB Wire Ropes
I used to buy all my ropes there, the old guy has gone but his grandson runs it now. If they don't have it they can get it and there prices are good.

newguy18 · 27th November 2007, 07:36 PM

Welcome to treeworld Done it and cool link.

13th October 2007, 01:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Haul rope Thinking of buying some of this for a heavy pull rope for excavator/pulling over jobs. What do you guys think? the temperature points im going to ring them about.. http://www.jeyco.com.au/Products%20C...and%20Rope.pdf __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

13th October 2007, 02:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Re: Haul rope That's a bloody strong rope! I cant see the melting point being so low, seems odd. Wonder how much it costs? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

13th October 2007, 03:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Re: Haul rope We will soon see how much! There shackles are heavy duty.. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

13th October 2007, 03:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Re: Haul rope This looks OK.... A. Noble & Son Ltd __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

13th October 2007, 03:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Re: Haul rope Yeah that looks real good, not as strong but is double braid with higher melting point jacket. They were in Adelaide (A Noble and Son), check that on price too! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

13th October 2007, 04:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Re: Haul rope Yes they have a store 40 minutes away,ill report back on costs. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

14th October 2007, 03:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 457	Re: Haul rope Those ropes both look pretty impressive, very strong for DIA. Did you consider using steel cable for hauling with excavator?

18th October 2007, 09:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
redstree Sappling Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 23	Re: Haul rope The low melting point is not an issue unless you are running it thru a crotch. Used as a pull line the 140C melting point is a non-issue. With that melting point I think the fiber is Dyneema. This is a great new fiber. It is even a replacement for Kevlar in bullet proof clothing. Dyneema fiber makes an excellant replacement for wire winch cables. It's low melting point does not seem to detract from it's effectivness. It is a very light, extremely strong, low stretch, abrasion resistant, fiber. Best thing is that you do not have to worry about "fish hooks" when you are handling it. As with any of the modern, high strength, low stretch, ropes you must be careful about how you attatch it to something. Not all knots work well. Spliced eyes are preferable. Most of the modern fibers do not like to make tight bends. The tighter the bend, the greater the loss of strength. It is so light that it floats and does not adsorb water. It is also unaffeced by UV and most common chemicals including oil and gasoline. __________________ Drive a MINI, the most fun you can have with your trousers on.

18th October 2007, 10:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Re: Haul rope Amazing to have a fiber stronger than steel. Many winch cables on new chippers are this stuff, feels a little inadequate when you start hauling a log but it's strong alright. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

18th October 2007, 11:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Re: Haul rope They got back to me on the supermax but only have it in 14mm i want 20mm,$15 to splice an eye in it. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

2nd November 2007, 07:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
treesailor Sappling Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 11	Re: Haul rope Sampson has the rope you are looking for. These high strength ropes have the breaking strength but not the duribility of cable but take a look http://www.samsonrope.com/site_files...st_Catalog.pdf

2nd November 2007, 11:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,847	Re: Haul rope treesailor I use Samson ropes and give them the thumbs up. However their toughest rope is tenex and 1" dia is 20,000kg breaking. The equivalent in newer high tech fibre for that dia such as plasma is 50,000kg. There's a whole new breed of high tech ropes and fibre out way stronger than tenex. Lopa's after these to replace steel cable as they are stronger than steel. Samson doesn't do these ropes yet. The yachting guy I go to for some rope splicing etc uses these newer ropes to replace the cable used on the masts etc. Welcome to Tree World __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

27th November 2007, 03:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
Done it Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 238	Re: Haul rope Hi, have you heard of LB Wire Ropes, LB Wire Ropes I used to buy all my ropes there, the old guy has gone but his grandson runs it now. If they don't have it they can get it and there prices are good. Last edited by Ekka : 27th November 2007 at 03:12 AM. Reason: added link, cool

27th November 2007, 07:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,646	Re: Haul rope Welcome to treeworld Done it and cool link. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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