Friction hitches for climbing lines

Cole · 4th October 2009, 08:19 PM

F@#K sorry kiwi, got myself confused.... newguy posted that ealier, and in my lack on concentration came up with your name when posting a reply

stihlrockin200t · 6th October 2009, 06:08 AM

i normally use 3 wraps instead of 4 on the blakes because it is faster when limbwalking but on occasion i will use a 4th wrap. normally 5 in the winter when the rope starts getting iced over. its just personal preference

spidermike · 6th October 2009, 02:03 PM

i need a simple way to put blakes hitch and micro pulley the simplier the better want to try something new

newguy18 · 10th October 2009, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole

F@#K sorry kiwi, got myself confused.... newguy posted that ealier, and in my lack on concentration came up with your name when posting a reply

yes i'm serious,i've tried them but don't own one and don't plan on buying one.

Cole · 10th October 2009, 11:54 AM

o k then...each to there own....so you dont use lowering blocks pulleys or slings you natural crotch everything. correct me if im wrong but you dont use them because you see them as taking an unacceptable risk or another possible faliure point in your system

letigre · 10th October 2009, 03:43 PM

wow! cheers trev. some seriously clever dudes out there. ill look into getting that slingshot and grapple i think.

newguy18 · 28th November 2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole

o k then...each to there own....so you dont use lowering blocks pulleys or slings you natural crotch everything. correct me if im wrong but you dont use them because you see them as taking an unacceptable risk or another possible faliure point in your system

Nope,i just crotch rig because its all i ever done,and unless i'm blocking and lowering down big wood,i don't bother to ask my boss for the block and porty or grcs.Its just prefrence,same with me using a tautline,i've tried each of the following hitches for a one month period per hitch and still perfer the tautline.

1. vt
2.swabisch
3.distel
4.blakes
5.4 coil prusik
6.knut

All were used with a micro pulley and i just didn't like them,the eye to eye hitches espically,i didn't like 2 main things,one hand over hand reefing,and that i couldn't slack off the knot a whole lot for limb walking,the blakes kept locking up on me so i gave up hope for it.

newguy18 · 28th November 2009, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spidermike

i need a simple way to put blakes hitch and micro pulley the simplier the better want to try something new

Take a swivel snap,like on a dog leash and tie a bowline in your line,making sure you put the snap in the knot,leave enough tail to tie the blakes and right below the blakes install a micro pulley and attach the pulley to the swivel snap.

arborjockey · 28th November 2009, 03:04 AM

mechuacon mocuacon mocucon??? Its in the sherrill catolog. The hitchs name comes from the town in mexico where the inventer is from. Try it its greaaat. you can but dont have to use a micro pulley. Its not idiot proof so try it low and slow.

newguy18 · 28th November 2009, 12:52 PM

I'm not big on the eye to eye hitches,i don't like my hitch that close to my belt,i like mine about head level.

FlashD · 28th November 2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arborjockey

mechuacon mocuacon mocucon??? Its in the sherrill catolog. The hitchs name comes from the town in mexico where the inventer is from. Try it its greaaat. you can but dont have to use a micro pulley. Its not idiot proof so try it low and slow.

I've tried this on numerous occasions because I love the idea of it and the way it works in theory, I just always end up with it sucked down so tight after putting weight on it that I can't advance it and end up having to re-dress it after every cut I make. I've been thinking of trying it with a 10mm line instead of 8mm.

Cole · 29th November 2009, 09:11 PM

heres my adjustable hitch setup, and my home made yes i actually made something for once, removable re-direct

letigre · 3rd December 2009, 08:52 AM

hey cole you do know the ropeman's not rated dont you? thats a bit of a death rig. your better off tying a highwaymans hitch or using a revolver redirect.

stirmantrees · 3rd December 2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole

heres my adjustable hitch setup, and my home made yes i actually made something for once, removable re-direct

how well does that system flow? ascending/descending
is that a tree motion?

FlashD · 3rd December 2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letigre

hey cole you do know the ropeman's not rated dont you? thats a bit of a death rig. your better off tying a highwaymans hitch or using a revolver redirect.

Where's he going to go if it fails? It's not like that's really a vital support system. being a closed loop, if it fails he may end up in a worse position, but I don't see him falling to his death. Even Sherrill shows this setup in their cataloge. Good looking out though.

Cole · 3rd December 2009, 07:24 PM

thanks flash, by the way wow tell me something new letigre ur a softy go get a tea spoon of cement and harden up. ur about the 1000th person who thought they were onto something there , so thanks for the advice but no thanks even if the ropeman gave way fck all would happen, got a revolver there alright but i dont rate them, ged renoylds & richie kenyon taught me the highwaymans with a shoe lace in on this chicks leg in melbourne a couple of years back, fcking pisser. i can still tie the knot but cant get it sorted in the tree,stirman its hammers man its really fast, works like a treat i run it with the ART rope guide it ascends and decends great for me im 69kg i generally ascedner SRT anways if its not worth getting it out i adjust the hitch legnth and pull the tail.
heres the same setup with ocean polyester HRC,

stirmantrees · 4th December 2009, 06:57 AM

personally would like to see it in action.

newguy18 · 5th December 2009, 01:37 PM

Go to the vermeer store on old winter garden rd in orlando,they have that set up hanging in the showroom,to much gear for my liking though.

stirmantrees · 5th December 2009, 01:39 PM

is that what that is.

newguy18 · 5th December 2009, 01:58 PM

Its called the loop climbing system,all the ropeman doesis allow you to set the hitch close or futher away to mimck body thrusting,it doesn't support yuor weight and it is approved for that use.

stirmantrees · 5th December 2009, 02:29 PM

sounds like you are actually more familiar with various hitches and such than i am. i hve been vary cautious to change that aspect of my system(like you i think) even though it may make my life easier.
i think i need to make myself master footlocking.

newguy18 · 5th December 2009, 02:40 PM

I've actually tried alot of differnt climbing systems,i go to alot of outcctt and itcc events and try out alot of people's set ups and if i'm unsure i try it for a month or so.Just to see how it works for my climbing style.

Cole · 5th December 2009, 02:46 PM

yeah theres a fair bit of stuff there newguy i normally just have the motion pulley attahed to a swivel with the bee-line and thats it, i SRT for access nyways fck thrusting or what ever

newguy18 · 5th December 2009, 02:48 PM

Dude,i still tail tye a tautline hitch,its just my prefrence,never fails,???? all the gizmos and toys.

Cole · 5th December 2009, 06:40 PM

yeah its a pretty safe reliable way,ive never had any faliures, i still say work smarter not harder

Fairfield · 8th December 2009, 02:15 PM

well here is a pic of my set-up on srt. When you get to the tie in point at the top (I use a running bowlin) I just pull the bowlin down to the hitch climber and snap it in on the top connection point. Easy way to switch over to DRT.

Fairfield · 8th December 2009, 02:18 PM

The other pic was to big. The orange cord goes to a eight on a bight that my foot can go into, the other foot has a Patin

4th October 2009, 08:19 PM	#151
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 215	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines F@#K sorry kiwi, got myself confused.... newguy posted that ealier, and in my lack on concentration came up with your name when posting a reply

6th October 2009, 06:08 AM	#152
stihlrockin200t Sappling Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: saginaw mi. Posts: 26	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines i normally use 3 wraps instead of 4 on the blakes because it is faster when limbwalking but on occasion i will use a 4th wrap. normally 5 in the winter when the rope starts getting iced over. its just personal preference

6th October 2009, 02:03 PM	#153
spidermike Sappling Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: indiana Posts: 19	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines i need a simple way to put blakes hitch and micro pulley the simplier the better want to try something new

10th October 2009, 11:54 AM	#155
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 215	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines o k then...each to there own....so you dont use lowering blocks pulleys or slings you natural crotch everything. correct me if im wrong but you dont use them because you see them as taking an unacceptable risk or another possible faliure point in your system

10th October 2009, 03:43 PM	#156
letigre Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 158	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines wow! cheers trev. some seriously clever dudes out there. ill look into getting that slingshot and grapple i think. __________________ sticks before chicks

28th November 2009, 03:04 AM	#159
arborjockey Mature tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 260	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines mechuacon mocuacon mocucon??? Its in the sherrill catolog. The hitchs name comes from the town in mexico where the inventer is from. Try it its greaaat. you can but dont have to use a micro pulley. Its not idiot proof so try it low and slow.

28th November 2009, 12:52 PM	#160
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines I'm not big on the eye to eye hitches,i don't like my hitch that close to my belt,i like mine about head level. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

29th November 2009, 09:11 PM	#162
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 215	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines heres my adjustable hitch setup, and my home made yes i actually made something for once, removable re-direct Attached Thumbnails

3rd December 2009, 08:52 AM	#163
letigre Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 158	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines hey cole you do know the ropeman's not rated dont you? thats a bit of a death rig. your better off tying a highwaymans hitch or using a revolver redirect. __________________ sticks before chicks

3rd December 2009, 07:24 PM	#166
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 215	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines thanks flash, by the way wow tell me something new letigre ur a softy go get a tea spoon of cement and harden up. ur about the 1000th person who thought they were onto something there , so thanks for the advice but no thanks even if the ropeman gave way fck all would happen, got a revolver there alright but i dont rate them, ged renoylds & richie kenyon taught me the highwaymans with a shoe lace in on this chicks leg in melbourne a couple of years back, fcking pisser. i can still tie the knot but cant get it sorted in the tree,stirman its hammers man its really fast, works like a treat i run it with the ART rope guide it ascends and decends great for me im 69kg i generally ascedner SRT anways if its not worth getting it out i adjust the hitch legnth and pull the tail. heres the same setup with ocean polyester HRC, Attached Thumbnails

4th December 2009, 06:57 AM	#167
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines personally would like to see it in action.

5th December 2009, 01:37 PM	#168
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines Go to the vermeer store on old winter garden rd in orlando,they have that set up hanging in the showroom,to much gear for my liking though. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th December 2009, 01:39 PM	#169
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines is that what that is.

5th December 2009, 01:58 PM	#170
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines Its called the loop climbing system,all the ropeman doesis allow you to set the hitch close or futher away to mimck body thrusting,it doesn't support yuor weight and it is approved for that use. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th December 2009, 02:29 PM	#171
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines sounds like you are actually more familiar with various hitches and such than i am. i hve been vary cautious to change that aspect of my system(like you i think) even though it may make my life easier. i think i need to make myself master footlocking.

5th December 2009, 02:40 PM	#172
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines I've actually tried alot of differnt climbing systems,i go to alot of outcctt and itcc events and try out alot of people's set ups and if i'm unsure i try it for a month or so.Just to see how it works for my climbing style. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th December 2009, 02:46 PM	#173
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 215	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines yeah theres a fair bit of stuff there newguy i normally just have the motion pulley attahed to a swivel with the bee-line and thats it, i SRT for access nyways fck thrusting or what ever

5th December 2009, 02:48 PM	#174
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines Dude,i still tail tye a tautline hitch,its just my prefrence,never fails,???? all the gizmos and toys. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th December 2009, 06:40 PM	#175
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 215	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines yeah its a pretty safe reliable way,ive never had any faliures, i still say work smarter not harder

8th December 2009, 02:15 PM	#176
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 125	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines well here is a pic of my set-up on srt. When you get to the tie in point at the top (I use a running bowlin) I just pull the bowlin down to the hitch climber and snap it in on the top connection point. Easy way to switch over to DRT. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you

8th December 2009, 02:18 PM	#177
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 125	Re: Friction hitches for climbing lines The other pic was to big. The orange cord goes to a eight on a bight that my foot can go into, the other foot has a Patin __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you

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