Do you carry a knife?

shaggs

Always carry a knife when working, and one that can be opened one handed.

Eric Frei

I always carry a bottle opener, does that count?

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Therrin

If I got caught by the cops, and had a bottle opener on my keys,

It would be "reasonable cause" to have myself and my car searched, and me held and questionned.

you know your day is shot when the cop says, (in that cop-voice) "He's got a, bottle...opener...." and then looks at you like you just tried to buy a paint-shop-pro-'d version of mother Teresa nude.

Maybe, Ekka, we mirror eachother in some ways

arborjockey

I always carry a knife. It started while climbing towers. We would use them for cutting electrical tape and ect...I started carrying one in the trees just in case. If you have to do a rescue some times you don't have time to think. I have herd allot of different scenarios but if i have to do a rescue i feel the person hurt has already made a poor choice. In that I don't trust their rope. When I go up their rope will more then likely be cut.

quercus

Only if it has a sharp edge on it...

newguy18

why carry a knife up a tree?are you gonna stab it?

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Eric Frei

Argh, some people just gotta do the Rambo thing.

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quercus

I believe it was an Aussie who said...

"THAT's NOT A KNOOIFE!!! THIS IS A KNOOIFE...."

Mick Dundee

That would be me then.

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quercus

I wonder if the dimensions of that knife have to compensate for something...

windthrown

Amazing about knives in Aus. I carry one of maybe 100 knives I own at any given time. I have a permit to carry a handgun in this state too (not that I do that often). Favorite knife is a razor sharp Kershaw folder. I can shave with it, it is so sharp. Never know when you need to cut something. I also use a center spring blade (switchblade that somes out the middle) when climbing; a one-handed knife. Learned that while mountain climbing (used to be in the Mazamas when I was younger).

windthrown

So, a missile launcher is the same as a slingshot in Australia?

Amusing... I have so many Aussy banned weapons here on the farm that I use. Except the missile launcher, and the gun silencers, which are federally banned here in the states.

arbdog

When I first passed my assesment for climbing i always had my knife, then i lost it and have never replaced it till this christmas as my old man who is sick of me being in the tree without one got me a new one! As from last week anybody caught in possesion of a knife it is mandotory prosicution, this is due to amount of stabbings by little chav kids in the u.k. But what can they say to the the fact that it is a compulsery requirment anybody working in the tree must have a retractable blade with them at all times!

windthrown

Amusing contradiction in UK laws there. Too many stabbings, so ban all knives? I can see it now.. a permeit to carry a pocket knife.

But then again, the US 2nd ammendment does not cover knives. Only guns.

quercus

Oh it gets a lot worse here... A few facts....

-1 gang in the mid 80's used a pump action shotgun for a robbery, so as of then, all pump action shotguns are licensed. Not the skeet or trap or hunting shotguns, only the pump actions.Because those are the ones that could kill a man, right? after that some 500 robbery were performed by BG with sawed-offs, but does anyone think about licensing those? No!! Why? Because the secretary of justice department is a hunter, and then he would need licenses for hunting guns.

-1 guy shoots two people in cold blood on a street with a .30-30 lever action, so now ALL shotguns and rifles are licensed...

-.22 was licensed here, but a 12 guage skeet shotgun, 7mm-08, .455 or .475 or other big caliber hunting rifles weren't,

-Want to drive a small motor cycle? you need a permit... Want to drive a tractor of 300 HP with a 40 tonne dumper behind it? Don't need permit or drivers license...Just gotta be the right age... wich is 16 years old.

-recently, two guys, unarmed , walked out of a military base, through the gate no less, with no less then 110 FN FAL automatic weapons ( of about 20 pounds each) and ammunition!!!!3 guards were jumped and handcuffed.

ya'll get a pretty good idea what this country's all about?

newguy18

if you go over the gate or fence to the armory here just down the road from me and you run when told to halt guess what your dead they don't play games.

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Therrin

Wow Quercus, that's pretty amazing.

Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a nice FN FAL. =)

windthrown

Well, what amazed me in California was that a .223 (AR-15) semi-auto is considered an assault rifle requiring a special grandfathered permit and is otherwise banned and impossible to sell or trade or will to someone, or even loan out. Can no longer be bought or sold or brought into the state by a state citizen legally in California (though as an 'out of state' citizen, I can transport an AR legally in CA!). But... a 30.06 M1 semi-auto, or a British .303 with 3x the stopping power of a .223 can be bought and sold as a rifle, no problem.

Makes perfect sence to me... but yah, cheap votes for politicians. Ban whatever the crooks have used in the last big headline event. Compare gun laws in Oregon to California, and crime statistics. California has far more gun restrictions, and far more violent crimes per capita. It seems that the more they regulate guns, the more crime they have. Oh yah, no one can own a gun, so I will be able to assult them without any fear of being shot. Doh!

Without even being able to own a knife in the UK, I would not want to be a little guy there.

Therrin

Windthrown,

You're close, but not spot-on with the Cali laws.

A .223 "ar-15" style rifle can be purchased and sold legally in california, without any special permits or liscensure, as long as it fits into a set of specifics. It must have a non-detatchable, internal 10 round magazine, and then no more than something like one or two of the following: barrel shorter than 20", but not shorter than 16", collapsible buttstock, flashhider, bayonet lug, etc etc.

You CAN own a fully legal .223, but the severity with which they butcher it down makes it almost laughable as a weapon afterwards.

I actually got my ar-15 lower reciever through a loophole in the Law. Only specific model numbers of lower recievers were banned. They started producing different ones, and selling them as quickly as possible, I picked up several. Once the officials noticed this was going on, they added those numbers to the list as well, which shut it down. However, any lower recievers which were purchased during that period are fully legal to own. And, since they were banned *after* that, it sets you up to legally apply for the assault weapons "permit" or whatever they call it.

Mine is registered now, but it's also completely legal, and I bought the lower here several years ago when that loophole was in effect. Since it's set under the "assault weapon" listing, that means I *can* set it up however I choose, as long as it's not crossing over into Class 3 territory. My lowers' are made by Rock River Arms and Lauer.

newguy18

how many guns do you got?

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Therrin

Several =)

This is getting off the knife-topic though, I suppose we could start a firearms thread in non-tree-related chat, but I dont know that there are many other's who really wanna chat about it on here. <shrugs>

I'd be up for it.

windthrown

You call that an AR-15????

I had to go through all the crap to get a California permit for my pre-ban DPMS Panther when I lived in CA (one of the 1990s loophole Colt AR knock-offs). My DPMS has a flash suppressor, detachable magazines (large federal pre-ban size), flare launcher, bayonette mount and bayonette, pistol grip (they all do), and telescoping stock. Origially it was sold to the Dallas SWAT. I got it for cheap becasue the ejector was not working right; I added a D-ring ejector that the guy that co-invented the rifle designed to overcome that flaw, and it works great.

In California, only ONE of the special assault rifle features are allowed on an AR (or any of the others, like the AK), and that is the lower pistol grip. The only AR you can legally buy there is the fixed-magazine with a fixed stock. That is not much of an AR. None of the other features are allowed, and all of the rifles on the assualt list cannot be sold, traded, willed or even loaned out. They must leave the state, be taken to a police station for destruction, or sold through a licensed federal gun dealer out of state. So you can own it, but that's it.

Here in OR? My CA registered DPMS Panther "assault weapon" is just a long gun. You do not even need to register one in a private sale here. I can basically sell it here to anyone over the age of 18. No such thing as a private gun sale in CA.

windthrown

Here yah go! Beware! Chainsaws will be banned next!

Police: Man injures 4 in chain saw rampage - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com

TREE-SURFER

I always have a knife when climbing. I always have a knife in the motor, you never know when you need to cut something. The old Bot Scout saying "be prepared", you never know when. I am ex forces and also a member of the RNLI LifeBoat service, you'll be surprised as to what you can use a good knife for...

Laws here on permitted blade lengths and what sort of knife you can carry, differ from others I have read. When climbing, I have attached to my saddle, a one-handed, thumb operated 3inch serrated blade, just in case I need to cut a rope. Now, these knives are quick and easy to open, what is the difference between these and a flick knife?
verses "This is not mine", (by the way).
Both of which can be opened with as much ease as the other and can do the same job....

Most knife attacks in the UK are carried out whilst using the common kitchen knife........

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RandyMac

Jeeze Windthrown, I might have join you up in the Beaver State, I have tons of about to be contraband items. My brother lives in Brookings, that's only a 25 minute commute to work from there.
I carry something sharp, every where I go, as well as a hole throwing device.

newguy18

i used to carry knives while climbing but that was some 6 months ago.

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newguy18

those are illegal?darn i go huntin with a missle launcher.

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Jeff Darby

I suppose it lessens the frequency of knife attacks,By the time you run home and get your kitchen knife if you havent cooled down and run all the way back to situation, If the same people are still there?..nothing short of a bullet is going to stop you.

Still comes down to the idiots buggering it up for the responsible folk out there. I carried a knife all my young life an never once pulled out in anger, funny though I was stabed in the arm by a kitchen knife....LOL...But this bloke was carrying his so it was a pre meditated thought to use it.??.

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arbdog

Tree Surfer.... Anybody in possesion of a knife will get knicked now, well thats what the sun said! ( and thats sort of a semi tits/newspaper to all who dont know it).