Choosing the right harness

newguy18

I agree,i love my Navajo sit,comfy as can be,works well since most of my work is removals,i can hang my husky 51[climbing saw] off it no problem and i

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jdog

I have been climbing with the new tribe work saddle and have no complaints but I'm still looking for another saddle, treemotion, ergovation, tree austria III, still up in the air.

Martin

I just ordered the ergovation for my second harness and will pass on my feedback. I'm just climbing on the side right now until the heat sends us from the woods this Aug. But I will be able to tell how tough this saddle is going to be which right now is my main concern. I was originally not going to spend the money and go for the Weaver Cougar but my wife surprised me for my birthday. I'm sure it will be a nice change regardless. Cheers

jdog

I would bet that being a buckingham saddle it will be plenty tough, my only question would be with the lack of gear loops, snaps or rings. Most buckingham saddles are loaded with attachment points but most pics I've seen of the ergo show a lack of.

Tree Machine

I've just spent 45 days climbing in the ergovation. I'm amidst processing the images. I'll be returning with first-hand views to share.

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jdog

Interested in hearing more on the ergo. Also considering Buckinghams master classic deluxe.

Grais

Weaver I believe is just releasing a NEW version of the Cougar saddle, it will either come with a Batten seat or have the ability to attach a batten made for the saddle. There were a couple of other small improvements(?), but the one that stuk in my mind was the batten seat.
Ive used batten a few times, and while I like them for the extended sit sessions, long pruning, or rigging sessions where you will be extending the bod, and doing a lot of sitting and waiting for ropes and what not...for that stuff the batten is a Godsend. But for just rope hangs or whatever up and down the tree, I prefer as light a saddle and uncluttered as possible. I dont keep a crap load of 'biners hanging of my saddle, I have a plastic utility box where I store all my biners and pullies, Id much rather have them in there, out of harms way than hanging of my saddle, unless they are needed. I see uys climbing with 15-20 'biners hanging, ropes, daisy chained slings etc etc, and they never use them, why take them up and down the tree.
To some, image it seems, supersedes function.
That is of course is just my opinion.
Hard to go wrong with Buckingham saddles, the deluxe line IIRC, the ones that are covered in nylon rather than leather, I like those saddles, a healthy mix of toughness and lightweight materials.
Never been a big fan of heavy leather on saddles, or for much actually, great for climb boots, but there is better materials to my mind for constructing climbing saddles, and thankfully the industry is starting to feel the same judging the newest saddles appearing on market.
Good luck in your journey, and stay safe.
-Grais.
PS: would love to see some pics of a worked in Ergo Treemachine, just to see how it wears, look forward to em.

Martin

Seems like a fair amount of wear after 45 days. Although like the fact that the whole saddle is replaceable in parts. I just hope that if there are a few sections that maybe don't stand up that well Buckingham will consider the relavtively high intial price and keep the price of replacements low. I won't hold my breath though It would be nice to see how the wear goes throughout the year. I'll do the same although I won't be full time in the harness. I'll keep track of my days though. Cheers

TrevMcRev

Hey TM

Interesting to see you picked the Ergo... I recall your earlier thorough consideration on choosing your next saddle.

Great to hear your thoughts on this.

And if i know you at all, there'll be some mods to be made

Tree Machine

Hi Trev. Actually, I haven't 'chosen' the Ergo. It is on loan to me and I've had to do a really concentrated assessment. 46 days (minus a week vacation) is a short time in the life of a saddle, but adequate for a thorough evaluation if you're climbing every day and you're in and out of the saddle between jobs.

I really need to get the saddle back to the rightful owner. I think I have taken all the pictures needed and I don't think there's anything else I can explore on the saddle, short of modifying it and testing those refined features.

Since it's not my saddle I was not at liberty to alter the saddle in any way, which I suppose is a better way to assess the performance based on the saddle itself, rather than assessing the saddle with the influence and intent of getting the most out of the saddle being used. Adjustment and setup is not the same as modification, and I'll clarify upcoming. For now, I'm fighting with a new Photoshop program, if I can get this done I can offer properly resized images rather than these small ones.

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TrevMcRev

You're running Mac 'puters yeah?? Got iPhoto?? Very quick & easy resizing straight from it, handy for posting pics on here.

jim1nz

Im also interested to hear thoughts on the Ergovation.

I meet Ed Carpenter the bloke who designed and made the the harness. Hes a cool guy, plenty of ideas.

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jdog

Same here. Not often you get a 45 day field test on a new saddle. Interested in what you have to say about the ergo.

Tree Machine

I consider the saddle loan a uique privilege and am very thankful.
Could you invite him into the thread? We'll be going over other saddles as the thread progresses, but for the upcoming posts, the Ergovation will be front and center. It would be really nice to have the discussion with the designer right here in the mix.
Yes, I have the Macbook Pro. I would love to know how to do resizes through iPhoto. Of the previous small images I dropped them into mail, which gives you three sizes to choose from, two that are smaller than ideal and one that exceeds the meg limit here at TreeWorld. That's a quick and dirty way to do it, but I want to post full page sizes (10" wide at 72dpi). You'd be a hero if you could make this come true. I really want to get on with the assessment.

TrevMcRev

iphoto resize info PM'ed

Now where is my cape & mask.....

I already have my underpants on the outside......

Ericlav27

I meet Ed in the spring at an areial rescue class, they had us trying different saddles and seeing what was good about them...... I put Eds on and had to have one .... it is alot to spend But it is the cats meowwww ...... you will not regret buying one...... I have had mine for 2 months and love it.

letigre

yeah he came to sydney. was talking up the ergo pretty hard. cant blame the guy tho i spose. i think id go for a tree-motion or a tree magic over the ergo.

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Tree Machine

I have kept this saddle far too long.



I just sent it back.






My report is about ready to submit. I hope you like pictures.

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