Aerial's Climbing Thread

[newguy18]

okay first off[aside from what ekka has already said],Aerial,Most of us are very good at what we do,we have more knowledge than you do at this point arguing and defending the smackdown crew is pointless,until i see photos or video of thier work that proves otherwise they are hacks in my book.We are not a pack,we don't always agree with ekka or each but instead we learn from each other as we wor in differnt parts of the world in differnt trees and we each have differnt tricks for our everyday work.You have had what a month hauling brush,i'm sure there are tricks to hauling brush and raking we could show you because most of us have been there done that many times.Ekka was right to call you those names and if you think you aren't acting prety arogant your fooling yourself.

[Aerial]

Yeah, I left for a week too, and now I've got a backlog of jabs to deflect. To be fair I'll need time to catch up. Your post is next.

Originally Posted by Therrin

I leave for a week and look what happens!

Wow... I'm not sure if he realizes that "rounding-over" and TOPPING are the same basic thing. So if you round it over and it gives it that nice "tree" look, what happens in 2 or 3 years when each of those areas has sprouted a bush of new epicormics which are weakly attatched?

No Therrin, I didn't know that at the time of your post. Thank you for pointing that out for me. You added to my vocabulary as well with "epicormics".

Originally Posted by Therrin

The whole "I'm not there to take pictures" thing is complete BULLSHIT. You manage to take all kinds of other pictures with them where they are standing there grinning and looking like unprofessional hack-yokels. I'd imagine that documenting a project before and after using photographs would be a good thing to get in the habit of. Especially since you already have a digital camera. Seriously now, you don't have to gawk at it for 25 minutes, just take a couple seconds and snap a few pictures. Less than a minute. Some tourist that would be huh?

You clearly don't understand the situation I am in with regards to my employment with this outfit. I have a lot to prove on a daily basis, and it's not taking pretty pictures.

I took the Father and Son shot by request (the Son's) and I was surprised I could get the Old Man to smile. It was shot after work on my own time.

Originally Posted by Therrin

It's nice how you show the crew and everyone, but can't seem to produce photos of what sounds to be (obvious) hack-type work. If the one person is so knowledgeable about trees and knows all about how they grow and how to properly prune them and does it wrong ANYWAY, that's even worse.

I am reluctant to post their work for the obvious toasting you (collectively) would give my employers here. It's a loyalty thing, also there are potential problems and legal ramifications to contemplate.

Can I come and spend a month with you documenting your work and posting it here and in ?????????

Originally Posted by Therrin

Bunch of hacks out to make a buck. I suppose anyone with a bucket can work on trees. Pity.

As I mentioned they have been in business over fifty years and are the most recommended tree service in this area.

I also mentioned that their methods, some good and some bad have been handed down through three generations.

Talking about their work is not why I am here, although I do want to have an understanding of what they are doing wrong, I don't think I should get it here in public so to speak.

Fortunately the climber helps me to learn what seems to me to be an ethical and appropriate modus operandi for commercial tree work.

Get in a good ride on your SR Therrin? I got rained out.

Aerial

[newguy18]

Originally Posted by Aerial

Yeah, I left for a week too, and now I've got a backlog of jabs to deflect. To be fair I'll need time to catch up. Your post is next.














As I mentioned they have been in business over fifty years and are the most recommended tree service in this area.
That doesn't mean sqaut,for all we know they still do flush cuts instead of collar cuts,we already know they top.Have they ever had an accident?Maybe cause property damage.

I also mentioned that their methods, some good and some bad have been handed down through three generations.
Thanks for pointing that out,heck the climber probabley still prunes with spikes on.

Fortunately the climber helps me to learn what seems to me to be an ethical and appropriate modus operandi for commercial tree work.

Is he isa certified?Have you invited him to join the forum?Until you know what proper treecare practices are how can you even say that he is teaching you the right things?like i said until i see otherwise i say they're hacks so quit defending them.
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Aerial

Ps Aerial,believe me i was a memeber of another forum and withing my first few posts i was gettting the boot from many other members,alot of it was indeed bs,but some of it was good for my devolpment in this industry,we all want to see you learn ethical practices and want to see you learn the tricks of the trade but arguing with members that have almost 40 years experiance is not they way to go.Did i forget anything.Ekka i say level 1 3/4.

[Aerial]

Originally Posted by newguy18

I guess what he failed to understand was heading back to nodes should only be done for treating storm or hack damage or if removeing the limb in question entirely would throw the trees balance of,not just cause it looks good.I think he won't take pics because he showed his crew this site and where we called them hacks and they asked him not to but 'm not him so i don't know.

In the example I cited, the certified arborists of the power company crew were the ones that cut a huge "L" in the trees to create a 5' space around the wires.

Going further back it was the landscapers who planted the trees too close to the wires. Who is really at fault here?

The tree was hacked long before we pulled up. To my untrained eye the mutilated trees were restored to a pleasant, balanced shape.

Aerial

[newguy18]

Okay first off,most line clearance guys aren't certified,when we say certified we mean with the isa or tcia.They are simply licensed which anyone with 50 bucks can be.Is the crew your with isa certified?I think not.Oh and yes you were arguing with treevet and he has almost 40 years experiance.I'm not that dumb as i know he maybe an old man but he can show me up on any given day.

[Aerial]

Originally Posted by Ekka

Yes, but you're the chef so eat what you cook...

You have served up a steaming plate piled high... I would normally ignore a post like that as I have many others of yours which are insulting and demeaning.

But your turn is up next Ekka and I will address your "issues" on a point by point basis.

You'll have to wait though, because there is more to my life than this forum.

Aerial

[Eric Frei]

Originally Posted by Aerial

You'll have to wait though, because there is more to my life than this forum.

And reading your shit.

YOU ARE BOOTED, go join the terdhouse where hacks love wankers. Waste of breathing space!