2nd Attachment point options

DBS · 12th October 2007, 09:38 AM

Greetings,

what are some comfortable options for a 2nd attachment point while blocking down on gaffs?

Some would suggest a 2nd lanyard off side D rings, others suggest attachment from center D ring.

-Daryl

Ekka · 12th October 2007, 12:03 PM

The biblical best is to have a choked off lifeline (with running bowline) which reaches the ground from your centre D's.

Then a figure 8 or other suitable SRT device, that is backed up by a friction hitch.

Sean Freeman · 12th October 2007, 02:26 PM

Hi DBS, the reason the line attached to the centre D's is better relates to the way the harness spreads the load through your hips, if you merely add the 2nd TIP to the side D's the stress and strain you'll feel will be intensified, having the front and centre attachment (though of course it will move with sliding D's) allows you to relieve some of the strain felt directly through your hips....working with heavy large timbe for prolonged periods any small respite you can find is a godsend.

DBS · 15th October 2007, 07:40 AM

Thank you Ekka and Sean,

This will help greatly in my toolbox of saftey gear.

Again thank you both!!

-Daryl

DBS · 15th October 2007, 04:11 PM

Greetings,

this is what i decided for my second attachment point. i am aware of pros and cons for this setup, however i am an advocate of less is more while in the tree. i want as simple of a setup as possible.

while using the Cambium saver ( FC ) it will have to be retrieved in full removals. why not utilize it on my decent.

plus it was a $40 solution for my current setup.

-Daryl

Ekka · 16th October 2007, 12:11 AM

Yep, that'll do it, that's a bona fide system. Retrievable too!

PS: Buy or cut off a split tail rather than that old hat idea of using the rope tail, best to buy a short piece of climbing line, 5' is should do it.

redstree · 17th October 2007, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

The biblical best is to have a choked off lifeline (with running bowline) which reaches the ground from your centre D's.

Then a figure 8 or other suitable SRT device, that is backed up by a friction hitch.

I like this suggestion. The addition of the figure 8 offers additional uses and versatility. Great for fast escapes ;-)

Ekka · 17th October 2007, 12:41 PM

Ideal for a long spar and a lunch time break.

Or imagine if you are blocking down a hollow trunk and BAM cut into a hive of bees, has happened.

I'd say on real tall or hollow etc use it in case you need to Single rope to the ground.

12th October 2007, 09:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
DBS Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 205	2nd Attachment point options Greetings, what are some comfortable options for a 2nd attachment point while blocking down on gaffs? Some would suggest a 2nd lanyard off side D rings, others suggest attachment from center D ring. -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

12th October 2007, 12:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: 2nd Attachment point options The biblical best is to have a choked off lifeline (with running bowline) which reaches the ground from your centre D's. Then a figure 8 or other suitable SRT device, that is backed up by a friction hitch. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

12th October 2007, 02:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: 2nd Attachment point options Hi DBS, the reason the line attached to the centre D's is better relates to the way the harness spreads the load through your hips, if you merely add the 2nd TIP to the side D's the stress and strain you'll feel will be intensified, having the front and centre attachment (though of course it will move with sliding D's) allows you to relieve some of the strain felt directly through your hips....working with heavy large timbe for prolonged periods any small respite you can find is a godsend. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

15th October 2007, 07:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
DBS Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 205	Re: 2nd Attachment point options Thank you Ekka and Sean, This will help greatly in my toolbox of saftey gear. Again thank you both!! -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

16th October 2007, 12:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: 2nd Attachment point options Yep, that'll do it, that's a bona fide system. Retrievable too! PS: Buy or cut off a split tail rather than that old hat idea of using the rope tail, best to buy a short piece of climbing line, 5' is should do it. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

17th October 2007, 12:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,943	Re: 2nd Attachment point options Ideal for a long spar and a lunch time break. Or imagine if you are blocking down a hollow trunk and BAM cut into a hive of bees, has happened. I'd say on real tall or hollow etc use it in case you need to Single rope to the ground. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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