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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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well the new draft is out. PDF attached but here's a link to the page where you can read many PDF's. Neighbourhood Disputes Resolution Bill consultation - Department of Justice and Attorney-General well it seems pretty good to me. There's some clarity on co-owned trees .... Quote:
Who is affected by the tree .... this is interesting because it can consider more than the just overhanging parts. what about those curly questions we get where no parts of a neighbours tree actually overhang a fenceline but the tree is within striking distance? Quote:
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Now what is the penalty for not doing the prescribed works? Quote:
I think the act covers the issues well, has even considered light, views, TV reception etc as follows:- Quote:
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So this would include a root system from a Fig? Previous owners planted a fig under the assumption it will only grow 3 metres high It is now, over 10. No problems yet, but the only way I can see to maintain a root system for a well established tree like this would be to take it out!
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| Mature tree Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Victoria Australia
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Looks good to me - I wish we had something similar here in Victoria
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A few more months to wait for this to be passed. Check laws before you chop trees | Council News | Sunshine Coast Daily Quote:
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I would be very interested to know how this fits in with council's tree policies? Half of the foliage may over hang a neighbours yard which means the tree has been trimmed over the 10% and to stop the tree over hanging in the future may require the whole tree to be removed. I assume removing half the foliage and branches would unbalance the tree? Who has the power? I wonder, the neighbour complaining or the council? Doesn't seem to be the tree owner! So if council won't let you take the tree out, get your neighbour to complain about it!
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: brisbane
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bet the council will get some requests for there ![]() over hanging trees ha ha
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Gets uglier I suppose if the tree is protected.
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Madonna King talking about this: Billing your neighbour for overhanging trees - ABC Queensland - Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) |
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See s43 (3)(c) (3) This chapter does not apply to trees situated on— (a) rural land; or (b) a parcel of land that is more than 4 hectares; or (c) land owned by a local government that is used as a public park; or | |
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There has been some changes and I have uploaded the latest PDF and explanation document. The biggest change is (from the explanation document):- Quote:
Billing your neighbour for overhanging trees - ABC Queensland - Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) So where there is no co-operation it's up to $300 per tree but only for branches which are under 2.5m high (a crown lift). Get your measuring sticks and cameras out guys before you cut.
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| Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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Channel 9 are running a fence line dispute special tonight 6.00pm Tuesday looks like Eric is the arborist on site
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Here is the News video:- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The facts were explained well enough about this job in the post below from Dirty Tricks By Brisbane City Council Quote:
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Damn, I turned on the news @ 10 past and put up with channel 9 for an hour after that. Seems I missed it.
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It is also interesting to note the rhetorical logic when Brisbane City Council themselves identify the Leopard tree as a nuisance tree, now forbid them from being planted in public places (footpaths and parks). Seed drop from them is a nuisance and part of the reason followed by unreliability post The Gap 2008 storms. But here, the tree is on private property and not on their land, they protected it. Maybe it's OK for neighbours and residents to put up with the mess but not them? ![]() Evidence of BCC's policy. Death knell for dangerous Brisbane trees Quote:
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| I've been following this thread for sometime now . Is anyone the wiser as to when this act will go to parliment/get passed as I have a escalating problem |
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Not yet, sit tight. What is of the greatest concern is who will be appointed Commissioner to make the rulings. What if the Commissioner is a one eyed tree hugger or influenced by the political whims of the tree huggers? Could be on the cards, watch closely too see who and how the appointment is made to see if Queensland has evolved much since the Joh days. ![]() What if the Commissioner is some-one who defies even the experts who have qualifications beyond theirs? Help| 50K signatures needed for petition Brisbane This will be the crunch, lets see the transparency or the the boys club in action.
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It always struck me as strange to plant leopard trees alongside roads and drainage. the small leaves and crap they drop on the ground clogs gutters on roof's and kerbside drainage. The roots get into the old school ceramic/teracotta type sewerage pipes between the rubber joins. not to mention those damn seed pods... projectiles when mowing the lawn ![]() Ok - end rant :P |
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Hello there-I am a new member and have been following the Qld Dept JUstice legislation closely-I heard on the local news this week that it is through. Good news! It just needs to be signed by the governor and it's all go. Am I correct? How long does this take? I assume all the necessary forms are already sorted out so it's just a matter of getting them-filling them in and giving copies to the neighbour. I didn't think the legislation would get through before tha state election. Anna Blighs reputation has risen a little for me after this. Regards Peterb |
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The Neighbourhood Disputes Resolution Bill 2010 was passed by Parliament on 2 August 2011. New laws for trees and fences
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Back to the specific case that had some footage shot by channel 9. Here's a picture of the trees, you have to ask questions about appropriate planting. ![]() Pretty much the entire crowns of the Jacarandas are regrowth, regenerated from a lop job. And to think the council put a VPO on something like that. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I hope the new law takes into account mature tree size because if your neighbour decides to plant large species right on the the fence line it will cause problems. Why plant a species that can get up to 1m dia trunk and 25m wide canopy right on the fence line? You know that 10m+ of canopy will go into your neighbouring property. If it was not a tree but a structure you think it would be allowed? Of course not, the council will not allow you to built a structure that is a pole rising say 5m then extending into your neighbours yard by 10m. Here you can see the great new fence, not! A back to fence line prune for that end Jacaranda would have left a stump flush with the fence, not what happened though. Would you impose such an abomination upon your neighbour? And why should the neighbour have to pay for pruning it or getting rid of it? Here's a picture of how it ended up. Do note where target cuts could be made they were, where the target cut was beyond the fence line they were not, leaving a stub for the tree owner (who refused access) to complete the pruning cut. Do note the two large occluded wounds (perhaps were 250mm dia branches removed) on the lower trunk portion of the Leopard tree where in the past the branches were removed.
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In The Tree Doctor report dated 10 September 2010 Matt Williams states, "the specimen has been heavily 'topped' 10+years prior to inspection date. Canopy now formed predominantly of epicormic sprouting."
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hahaha thats funny they complain about the topping and it was them that topped it hahahahah ![]()
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It never ceases to amaze me why people dont tell the truth because lies allways come back and bite you on the ass making a liar of you ! and to think they protected regrowth like that. Hillbilly madness.....
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It says on The Tree Doctor report, member QAA. So hang on, this QAA is the one saying their all angels and watch out for the rest of us. ![]() The neighbour is a lawyer so we know he'd only tell the truth. The letter wrote verbatim, "This property has been our home for over 20 years and over that period we have sought to ensure the good health of these trees. To that end, we have regularly engaged arborists employed by The Tree Doctor, with whose reputation we believe you would be familiar."
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: brisbane
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if i call myself a tree doctor is it ok 4 me to top trees to or is it just for a select few ![]() |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: brisbane
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the doctor will do amputations to |
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