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Old 1st September 2007, 09:47 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Default Re: Dr Storricks new tree devices

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So why doesn't any one use a gibbs ascender or the like in stead of a friction hitch?I'm sure that it would save money and rope in the long run?
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I wasn't planning on testing it personally I was just wondering if any one uses or tried it.My friend Jerry used to do it.
Trouble with learning "old school" is picking up bad habits, perhaps from things that sort of worked but nothing else was around or available.

A Gibbs ascender cannot be abseiled upon safely. It relies purely on locking off the rope with downward pressure and has no gentle semi open positioning for smooth descent like a Gri Gri.

I also know people who reckon they climb on a shunt, same problem. If you open the jaw or relieve pressure on the jaw you go down at a rate of knots.

You may use a Gibbs on your lanyard, same problem. If you are leaning back and release the jaw you fall backwards ... hence having to either hold the rope or the tree/branch etc.

Both recreational rock climbing tutors or qualified arborists/rescue personel are trained with knowledge and the short comings of these devices, I urge you broaden your spectrum of what is out there and who delivers the knowledge.
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