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Originally Posted by Treelore  Eric, in Australia we have a Forestry harvesting code of practice. FPI05 which states amongst many other things. Your scarf (which is a required 2 cuts that must meet at a horizontal line) MUST face in the direction of intended fall as well as use of uneven hinge wood to guide a leaning tree. Without substantial evidence and a hearing that supports your evidence and alters the practice everything you speak of is ILLEGAL. For anyone to adopt any of the methods that you speak of jeopardizes their liabilty as well as placing you in a position where Public indemnity insurance would be very handy. Many people have been killed by using the methods you are suggesting an I have been instructed to say by a health and safety officer for forrestry this code of practice has been written in blood. It is unlawful for you to suggest to anyone to alter methods that are an Industry code of practice and despite what your feelings are about the bio-mechanics of a hinge if anyone has an accident by listening to your suggested methodologies within Australia and it is shown that you who are not registered as an RTO and giving this sort of information to people who may in fact use it you will be accountable. |
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Originally Posted by Treelore Sean this entire thread is of a scarf being placed in a direction that the tree is not expected to fall!!! That in itself is bad practice which noone picked up on. To think that it is even an acceptable practice to teach tearing of the hingewood in order to place a tree is lunacy. The acceptable code of practice has been written in order to stop such ridiculous forms of malpractice and many have died and many research institutions do nothing but look at bio-chemistry and fibre of timber to ascertain exactly what we have in todays terms of safe felling. These are tried and true methods that are beyond reproach at this particular juncture. That as said, to recommend anything other than the COP is illegal and to suggest that there is a better way of doing things without being in approval of the COP is a great way to get in real trouble. Hingewood is an essential component of felling leaning trees because the additional hinge offers more resistance so keeping a tree straighter for longer. These are basic standards and at this point the wheel is not going to be reinvented! Oh and Sean Bore cutting and quarter cutting are a standardized forestry way of cutting hazardous and leaning trees that require differentiation in hinge thickness!! |
You have missed the point so incorrectly it borders on humiliating, the tree of course follows the scarf to a tee, and the side rope at 90 degrees to it does exactly that.
It's so dissapointing that you even call yourself an arborist if after all the videos and diagrams you fail to comprehend this procedure, shame on you, back to grade 3 comprehension!
Other readers, TreeLore has failed to realise that the tree falls true to hinge but the "offset" is it's own canopy geometry "offset" from the hinge. His rantings and banter are simply rhetoric .... absolute tripe, nonsense and the typical stifle that becomes institutionalised, and man within a mould. Who are you taking to your next tricky felling job, Text Book TreeLore or Ekka hits the cone at 20m?
You can eat all those words above, what's ridiculous is your posts and sensationalism of danger, deaths, malpractice bla bla bla .... act like a knob!
