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Therrin · 14th February 2008, 01:15 AM

I wasn't suggesting Arb work using non-locking carabiners, guys.

The POINT (obviously missed) is that you can be perfectly safe using already tried and true methods. Although I don't mind switching to auto-locking biners, It is MY OPINION that you can climb perfectly safely using screw locking biners.

How many climbers have climbed for how many years using screw-locks only?

How many climbers died through not screwing their biner's closed?

What happens, in the next couple years, if climbers get complacent because their biner's "auto-lock", decide they don't need to be regularly assessed, and people start falling out of trees because their "auto locking" biner's gates got jammed, didn't lock, they assumed it had, and then they fall?

What's next, biner's that emit lights and sirens when not locked properly? Give me a break. This is a perfect example of a select few climbers who were rushing / not checking their gear / not using their gear properly / etc etc, and they paid the ultimate consequence for it. Doesn't mean that gear *can't* be used properly, perfectly safely, with no worries.

14th February 2008, 01:15 AM	#63 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,418	Re: Types of Biners you use. I wasn't suggesting Arb work using non-locking carabiners, guys. The POINT (obviously missed) is that you can be perfectly safe using already tried and true methods. Although I don't mind switching to auto-locking biners, It is MY OPINION that you can climb perfectly safely using screw locking biners. How many climbers have climbed for how many years using screw-locks only? How many climbers died through not screwing their biner's closed? What happens, in the next couple years, if climbers get complacent because their biner's "auto-lock", decide they don't need to be regularly assessed, and people start falling out of trees because their "auto locking" biner's gates got jammed, didn't lock, they assumed it had, and then they fall? What's next, biner's that emit lights and sirens when not locked properly? Give me a break. This is a perfect example of a select few climbers who were rushing / not checking their gear / not using their gear properly / etc etc, and they paid the ultimate consequence for it. Doesn't mean that gear can't be used properly, perfectly safely, with no worries.