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George Hayduke · 12th February 2008, 01:41 PM

Micro fractures in biners is a myth. Don't believe me...ask google and all of the gear manufacturers. This dead horse has been beaten to a pulp let the thing stay buried ok?

The link for the studies is on my other computer, I'll put it up later.

Nonlockers are fine out of trees...different environments. IN trees ropes, climbers and tree parts move around and can jiggle things out of alignment leading to accidents. Accidents have happened, standards change and the world is a better place.

Ask your heirs if they will allow you to climb on non-lockers after they read the Z.

12th February 2008, 01:41 PM	#60 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 93	Re: Types of Biners you use. Micro fractures in biners is a myth. Don't believe me...ask google and all of the gear manufacturers. This dead horse has been beaten to a pulp let the thing stay buried ok? The link for the studies is on my other computer, I'll put it up later. Nonlockers are fine out of trees...different environments. IN trees ropes, climbers and tree parts move around and can jiggle things out of alignment leading to accidents. Accidents have happened, standards change and the world is a better place. Ask your heirs if they will allow you to climb on non-lockers after they read the Z.