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Old 8th January 2008, 06:23 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Default Re: conventional figure-8

it still pivots but not as much and you can get more pivoting from doing a conventional notch with a flat bottom.You really have to try it for yourself.for rotten tops your unsure of it eliminates setting back.give it a go Eric.
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