No, I dont need to reread anything. I've read it many times over and looked the diagrams over and over.
The debate is about wall 4 being callus (or part of it somehow) or not.
You have come out and said wall 4 is not callus and can exist without callus.
All pictures and documents say otherwise.
You too agreed where there was no callus (red arrow) there was no wall 4.
So, what is it you cannot understand. There's a document now with a lot of credibility where they analysed callus at intervals to understand what it was.
So, do you still say wall 4 is independent of callus? I did say wall 4 is part of callus and it cannot exist where there's no new growth (callus wood) ... you said that's wrong.
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Originally Posted by Ekka  Figs are hopeless at growing wall 4, the callus or closure component.
Closure is an important part of compartmentalisation but those trees weren't fussed maybe because they dont have to be. |
As a refresher here's my original statements and you can clearly see I dont call Closure or callus compartmentalization in it's own right but a component of it.
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Originally Posted by arborcraft Sorry Ekka, Trees (even Figs) do not grow Wall 4.
Wall 4 is just inside the diameter of the tree at the time of that one wound.
Wall 4 is inside the vascular cambium, it has to be, however else could the tree continue to grow? |
Here is where you debunk everything I've know or read where wall 4 is grown after the event.
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Originally Posted by arborcraft Wall 4 is poorly understood by us all. Opinions have changed a lot over the last 20 years.
Wall 4 has nothing to do with the callus or closure component. |
Once again in that same post of yours you say wall 4 has nothing to do with callus growth, yet you agree on pictures where there's an absence of callus there is no wall 4.
From the post you said I should reread it says this from a university. Now that slots in with everything I'm saying and agrees with the fact that where there's no growth there's no wall.
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Wall 4 is formed by cambium growth after an injury.
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