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Old 16th November 2007, 09:10 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Talking Re: Alloy vs steel carabiners karabiners for tree work

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Originally Posted by Tree Machine View Post
Ratings are measures in force. 10 Kn (2,250 lb) hanging static on a line is the same force as a dropped load of X which accelerates and whose deceleration results in a 10 Kn force. How the force is applied may be different, but if the resultant force is the same, 10 Kn is 10 Kn. Ratings are designated to tell you a caribiner or scaffold hook or Maillon Rapide will stand forces up to that rating. So technically, yes, they are force rated and thus rated for static or impact force.

I use Kong Stainless slideline biners for light rigging. I don't know why I want other stainless biners.... the responsible explanation is that I'm addicted to climbing hardware. No real good reason, other than that.

We're no smarter. Just different ways to deal with that situation. Keeping the caribiner oriented in one direction, so it can't rotate, very, very important.

Quite easy to deal with, using spliced eyes or eyed terminations. If you tie bulky knots and drop a biner onto that, you're limited. For permanent ends, if you do your own, create a small eye, that's one way. Or you can Awl a single stitch through the eye to constrict and tighten the eye around the biner. Or take a broccoli band (fat, short rubber band), give it a loop-over over the terminated eye, stretch, twist, loop-over again. This will squeeze the eye. Insert biner. Surgical tubing, like that used on the big shot, cut a 1-2 cm long piece. Spread and open it up. Insert the eye through it, release the tubing around the eye.

There ya go Franz Nel. There are also stainless steel 'traps', plastic traps, and leather traps from most Arborist supply, all designed to hold a caribiner in the proper orientation and keep it from flipping. Lateral loading bad, as we all know. Try one of the ideas above, I think you'll have great results.
I thought he was talking about the biner for his split tail.Whati do is use both my climb line and split tail on the same biner but i've known some to connect the two biners with a quick link.Personally when the split tail biner side loads it is when you pull on your main line so when you advance your hitch the biner returns to normal so I don't know if I'd worry about it too much.
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